Probably gonna get an Odyssey...

I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but I was very impressed with the way the
'07 Sienna rode. My wife has driven both and thought the Sienna was a
little better. But the 8 passenger seating has her swaying towards the
Odyssey along with my Accords track record.

Yeah, 70 miles north of NYC and I work in Lyndhurst, NJ. On the MB, yes,
4Matic. But even if we were to get the Sienna, not going for the AWD. Just
gonna get a spare set of rims to through some snow tires on. Those 5 days a
year where AWD is required over FWD, she can stay home like I do.

 

I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but I was very impressed with the way the
'07 Sienna rode. My wife has driven both and thought the Sienna was a
little better. But the 8 passenger seating has her swaying towards the
Odyssey along with my Accords track record.

Yeah, 70 miles north of NYC and I work in Lyndhurst, NJ. On the MB, yes,
4Matic. But even if we were to get the Sienna, not going for the AWD. Just
gonna get a spare set of rims to through some snow tires on. Those 5 days a
year where AWD is required over FWD, she can stay home like I do.

 

I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but I was very impressed with the way the
'07 Sienna rode. My wife has driven both and thought the Sienna was a
little better. But the 8 passenger seating has her swaying towards the
Odyssey along with my Accords track record.

Yeah, 70 miles north of NYC and I work in Lyndhurst, NJ. On the MB, yes,
4Matic. But even if we were to get the Sienna, not going for the AWD. Just
gonna get a spare set of rims to through some snow tires on. Those 5 days a
year where AWD is required over FWD, she can stay home like I do.

 

So far it is. The Sienna FWD, 7-pas XLE with the leather package is $31K
while a quote emailed to me earlier today has the 8-pas Odyssey EX-L at
27,989.

Wife likes the 8th seat in the Odyssey (as well as Honda's proven track
record with previous cars we've had) more than the electric tailgate (which
is included in the '07 Touring Odyssey).

 

So far it is. The Sienna FWD, 7-pas XLE with the leather package is $31K
while a quote emailed to me earlier today has the 8-pas Odyssey EX-L at
27,989.

Wife likes the 8th seat in the Odyssey (as well as Honda's proven track
record with previous cars we've had) more than the electric tailgate (which
is included in the '07 Touring Odyssey).

 

So far it is. The Sienna FWD, 7-pas XLE with the leather package is $31K
while a quote emailed to me earlier today has the 8-pas Odyssey EX-L at
27,989.

Wife likes the 8th seat in the Odyssey (as well as Honda's proven track
record with previous cars we've had) more than the electric tailgate (which
is included in the '07 Touring Odyssey).

 

Woody, would you please do this newsgroup a favor... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Once again, here's a reality check for you. Honda extended warranties
and/or issued recalls for many of those issues. If you look at long-term
reliability data in Consumer Reports or just about any other source, they
will say that Odyssey is still more reliable than any big 3 minivan.
Venture (since "replaced" by Upchucker, uh, I mean Uplander) is saddled with
a V6 that is prone to the expensive-to-fix intake manifold gasket problem
that GM still refuses to acknowledge. Ford and Crapsler minivans still have
higher rates of tranny failure than the Odyssey, and they never issued
recalls or extended warranties for them.

BTW, the OP is looking at a new Odyssey. The tranny issue was resolved by
the time it was redesigned for 2005.

 

Woody, would you please do this newsgroup a favor... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Once again, here's a reality check for you. Honda extended warranties
and/or issued recalls for many of those issues. If you look at long-term
reliability data in Consumer Reports or just about any other source, they
will say that Odyssey is still more reliable than any big 3 minivan.
Venture (since "replaced" by Upchucker, uh, I mean Uplander) is saddled with
a V6 that is prone to the expensive-to-fix intake manifold gasket problem
that GM still refuses to acknowledge. Ford and Crapsler minivans still have
higher rates of tranny failure than the Odyssey, and they never issued
recalls or extended warranties for them.

BTW, the OP is looking at a new Odyssey. The tranny issue was resolved by
the time it was redesigned for 2005.

 

Woody, would you please do this newsgroup a favor... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Once again, here's a reality check for you. Honda extended warranties
and/or issued recalls for many of those issues. If you look at long-term
reliability data in Consumer Reports or just about any other source, they
will say that Odyssey is still more reliable than any big 3 minivan.
Venture (since "replaced" by Upchucker, uh, I mean Uplander) is saddled with
a V6 that is prone to the expensive-to-fix intake manifold gasket problem
that GM still refuses to acknowledge. Ford and Crapsler minivans still have
higher rates of tranny failure than the Odyssey, and they never issued
recalls or extended warranties for them.

BTW, the OP is looking at a new Odyssey. The tranny issue was resolved by
the time it was redesigned for 2005.

 

The EX-L is easily the best deal in the Odyssey. I drive my elderly parents
around and I decided that I wanted power sliding doors for them (the right
decision) and rear hatches on vans get filthy fast so I wanted a power rear
door. For that you need the touring model. I regret not paying more and
gettting the rear view camera and navigation (my wife has navigation on her
accord and it is a pleasure). But the front and rear sensors are very
helpful.

 

The EX-L is easily the best deal in the Odyssey. I drive my elderly parents
around and I decided that I wanted power sliding doors for them (the right
decision) and rear hatches on vans get filthy fast so I wanted a power rear
door. For that you need the touring model. I regret not paying more and
gettting the rear view camera and navigation (my wife has navigation on her
accord and it is a pleasure). But the front and rear sensors are very
helpful.

 

The EX-L is easily the best deal in the Odyssey. I drive my elderly parents
around and I decided that I wanted power sliding doors for them (the right
decision) and rear hatches on vans get filthy fast so I wanted a power rear
door. For that you need the touring model. I regret not paying more and
gettting the rear view camera and navigation (my wife has navigation on her
accord and it is a pleasure). But the front and rear sensors are very
helpful.

 

Avoid the Mercedes. There reliability is horrible. Good tranny and
motor, but the electronics are straight out of the garbage.

 

Avoid the Mercedes. There reliability is horrible. Good tranny and
motor, but the electronics are straight out of the garbage.

 

Avoid the Mercedes. There reliability is horrible. Good tranny and
motor, but the electronics are straight out of the garbage.

 

Wow, tough choices --

I'm not much of a fan of the Sienna, but it's not a bad car. The
Mercedes is VERY nice and is a really cool car, but their reliability
can't match the Toyota or the Honda. But as Seth put it above, it
should last for 27 months. Keep in mind though, this means you'll have
to buy another car in a little over two years, so if you're in this
for the long run, the Mercedes probably wouldn't be your best choice.

Overall, I'd take the Honda. I find it more comfortable, it's larger,
and it'll fit eight passengers. That should be a good plus for your
wife, especially if you have kids. Plus, it sounds like it's cheaper.

Good luck! Overall, any of the three you choose will serve you well,
it's just down to details now...

 

Wow, tough choices --

I'm not much of a fan of the Sienna, but it's not a bad car. The
Mercedes is VERY nice and is a really cool car, but their reliability
can't match the Toyota or the Honda. But as Seth put it above, it
should last for 27 months. Keep in mind though, this means you'll have
to buy another car in a little over two years, so if you're in this
for the long run, the Mercedes probably wouldn't be your best choice.

Overall, I'd take the Honda. I find it more comfortable, it's larger,
and it'll fit eight passengers. That should be a good plus for your
wife, especially if you have kids. Plus, it sounds like it's cheaper.

Good luck! Overall, any of the three you choose will serve you well,
it's just down to details now...

 

Wow, tough choices --

I'm not much of a fan of the Sienna, but it's not a bad car. The
Mercedes is VERY nice and is a really cool car, but their reliability
can't match the Toyota or the Honda. But as Seth put it above, it
should last for 27 months. Keep in mind though, this means you'll have
to buy another car in a little over two years, so if you're in this
for the long run, the Mercedes probably wouldn't be your best choice.

Overall, I'd take the Honda. I find it more comfortable, it's larger,
and it'll fit eight passengers. That should be a good plus for your
wife, especially if you have kids. Plus, it sounds like it's cheaper.

Good luck! Overall, any of the three you choose will serve you well,
it's just down to details now...

 

Read his post carefully, and you'll see what an ignoramus he is.

He says that by 2007 GM has fixed their problems, so the 2002 GM vehicle
isn't a gauge of what GM stuff is like now. But then he says that we
should look at the 2002 Honda and know what Honda stuff is like, and
that the 2007 Honda hasn't been out long enough to know if anything's
fixed.

Hmmmmmm. By his definition, everything's fixed in the 2007 GM. We know
that apparently because, well, we know that. OTOH, the 2007 Honda
hasn't been out long enough to know.

Interesting logic, there.

If nothing else, look at the relative merits of the 02 Odyssey vs. the
02 GM, and extend that relationship the 07 Odyssey vs. the 07 GM. If
the 07 GM got X% better than the 02 GM, then the 07 Odyssey got X%
better than the 02 Odyssey.

And the Honda product in 02 was Y% better than the GM back then, so the
07 Honda product is the same Y% better than the 07 GM product.

 

Read his post carefully, and you'll see what an ignoramus he is.

He says that by 2007 GM has fixed their problems, so the 2002 GM vehicle
isn't a gauge of what GM stuff is like now. But then he says that we
should look at the 2002 Honda and know what Honda stuff is like, and
that the 2007 Honda hasn't been out long enough to know if anything's
fixed.

Hmmmmmm. By his definition, everything's fixed in the 2007 GM. We know
that apparently because, well, we know that. OTOH, the 2007 Honda
hasn't been out long enough to know.

Interesting logic, there.

If nothing else, look at the relative merits of the 02 Odyssey vs. the
02 GM, and extend that relationship the 07 Odyssey vs. the 07 GM. If
the 07 GM got X% better than the 02 GM, then the 07 Odyssey got X%
better than the 02 Odyssey.

And the Honda product in 02 was Y% better than the GM back then, so the
07 Honda product is the same Y% better than the 07 GM product.