Probably gonna get an Odyssey...

Bob Bailey · Feb 16, 2007

Seth said:

Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
longer trust. 2 weeks ago needed the intake manifold repaired, now last
week the AWD stopped working. Initially they said needed a new rear diff.
to the tune of $3000. Told them to forget it. Later on, after they did
some more research, found some other tech articles suggesting just replacing
the AWD pump in the diff would do the trick. That was only $250 ($170 for
part plus labor). Went ahead with that gamble merely to keep it in as good
a shape as possible till we decide upon it's replacement.

It's not an issue of the dealer. I've dealt with them for many years on
prior vehicles and they've always been straight. It's I just don't trust
the vehicle any longer. Only has 96000 miles on it and seems like it is
falling apart.

3 vehicles we are looking at are the '07 Odyssey EX-L, the '07 Sienna XLE
with Package #3, or the MB R350 (my uncle works for them and can get me a
sweet lease even with a 20000 mile a year allowance.

I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
passenger. So that issue, and the 175,000 nearly trouble free miles on my
'01 Accord V6 EX-L has her leaning that way. Dealer is offering it to us
for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with that. Gonna see if I can work him
a little further and/or see what I can get out of him on our trade-in
(haven't even mentioned trade to dealer yet).

Ok, lots of irrelevant history out of the way...Just wanted to get that data
out there in case anybody else is currently comparing the same vehicles.

Any finance deals or incentives either rumored or confirmed in the upcoming
week or 2? Hoping there may be some rebates or financing incentives for the
upcoming President's day weekend.
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I bought an Odyssey (still can't spell it) in Nov and just got back from
several thousand miles to FL. I LOVE it, may be the best all-around
vehicle I've ever owned.

Baseline: previous car was 84 BMW 528e that I had owned for 20 years.

....BOb

Bob Bailey · Feb 16, 2007

Seth said:

Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
longer trust. 2 weeks ago needed the intake manifold repaired, now last
week the AWD stopped working. Initially they said needed a new rear diff.
to the tune of $3000. Told them to forget it. Later on, after they did
some more research, found some other tech articles suggesting just replacing
the AWD pump in the diff would do the trick. That was only $250 ($170 for
part plus labor). Went ahead with that gamble merely to keep it in as good
a shape as possible till we decide upon it's replacement.

It's not an issue of the dealer. I've dealt with them for many years on
prior vehicles and they've always been straight. It's I just don't trust
the vehicle any longer. Only has 96000 miles on it and seems like it is
falling apart.

3 vehicles we are looking at are the '07 Odyssey EX-L, the '07 Sienna XLE
with Package #3, or the MB R350 (my uncle works for them and can get me a
sweet lease even with a 20000 mile a year allowance.

I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
passenger. So that issue, and the 175,000 nearly trouble free miles on my
'01 Accord V6 EX-L has her leaning that way. Dealer is offering it to us
for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with that. Gonna see if I can work him
a little further and/or see what I can get out of him on our trade-in
(haven't even mentioned trade to dealer yet).

Ok, lots of irrelevant history out of the way...Just wanted to get that data
out there in case anybody else is currently comparing the same vehicles.

Any finance deals or incentives either rumored or confirmed in the upcoming
week or 2? Hoping there may be some rebates or financing incentives for the
upcoming President's day weekend.
Click to expand...

I bought an Odyssey (still can't spell it) in Nov and just got back from
several thousand miles to FL. I LOVE it, may be the best all-around
vehicle I've ever owned.

Baseline: previous car was 84 BMW 528e that I had owned for 20 years.

....BOb

Bob Bailey · Feb 16, 2007

SMS said:

That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high
for the plain EX-L.
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Mine was plain EX-L for 28500. Basically the dealer invoice according to
Consumer Reports.

Bob Bailey · Feb 16, 2007

SMS said:

That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high
for the plain EX-L.
Click to expand...

Mine was plain EX-L for 28500. Basically the dealer invoice according to
Consumer Reports.

Bob Bailey · Feb 16, 2007

SMS said:

That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high
for the plain EX-L.
Click to expand...

Mine was plain EX-L for 28500. Basically the dealer invoice according to
Consumer Reports.

John Horner · Feb 18, 2007

Seth said:

Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
longer trust.
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Get rid of that thing. Our '02 Olds Silhoette (same van) started to
become very trouble prone not long after getting out of warranty. To
all the GM PR flaks who blame "perception" and "media bias" for their
rotten image I say ... just have a look at your own records of V-6
intake manifold gasket failures and high failure rates for almost
everything to do with the "U" minivans to see why so many former
customers joined the Never Again Club.

The three vans worth serious consideration today are the Toyota, Honda
and Hyundai/Kia.

John

John Horner · Feb 18, 2007

Seth said:

Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
longer trust.
Click to expand...

Get rid of that thing. Our '02 Olds Silhoette (same van) started to
become very trouble prone not long after getting out of warranty. To
all the GM PR flaks who blame "perception" and "media bias" for their
rotten image I say ... just have a look at your own records of V-6
intake manifold gasket failures and high failure rates for almost
everything to do with the "U" minivans to see why so many former
customers joined the Never Again Club.

The three vans worth serious consideration today are the Toyota, Honda
and Hyundai/Kia.

John

John Horner · Feb 18, 2007

Seth said:

Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
longer trust.
Click to expand...

Get rid of that thing. Our '02 Olds Silhoette (same van) started to
become very trouble prone not long after getting out of warranty. To
all the GM PR flaks who blame "perception" and "media bias" for their
rotten image I say ... just have a look at your own records of V-6
intake manifold gasket failures and high failure rates for almost
everything to do with the "U" minivans to see why so many former
customers joined the Never Again Club.

The three vans worth serious consideration today are the Toyota, Honda
and Hyundai/Kia.

John

Seth · Feb 18, 2007

John Horner said:

Get rid of that thing.
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Done. Picked up the EX-L in Ocean Mist yesterday.

Seth · Feb 18, 2007

John Horner said:

Get rid of that thing.
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Done. Picked up the EX-L in Ocean Mist yesterday.

Seth · Feb 18, 2007

John Horner said:

Get rid of that thing.
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Done. Picked up the EX-L in Ocean Mist yesterday.

John Horner · Feb 18, 2007

Woody said:

But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed in
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
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GM's minivans still stink, enough so that they are about to be killed
off all together by the General.

John Horner · Feb 18, 2007

Woody said:

But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed in
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
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GM's minivans still stink, enough so that they are about to be killed
off all together by the General.

John Horner · Feb 18, 2007

Woody said:

But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed in
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
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GM's minivans still stink, enough so that they are about to be killed
off all together by the General.

z · Feb 20, 2007

Woody, would you please do this newsgroup a favor... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Once again, here's a reality check for you. Honda extended warranties
and/or issued recalls for many of those issues. If you look at long-term
reliability data in Consumer Reports or just about any other source, they
will say that Odyssey is still more reliable than any big 3 minivan.
Venture (since "replaced" by Upchucker, uh, I mean Uplander) is saddled with
a V6 that is prone to the expensive-to-fix intake manifold gasket problem
that GM still refuses to acknowledge. Ford and Crapsler minivans still have
higher rates of tranny failure than the Odyssey, and they never issued
recalls or extended warranties for them.

BTW, the OP is looking at a new Odyssey. The tranny issue was resolved by
the time it was redesigned for 2005.
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Yeah, Honda just mailed out like last week the notices of extended
warranties for the transmissions on all those Odysseys and the other
models with the problem. Meanwhile, I know lots of people with
Odysseys of that vintage, and none of them have actually encountered
the problem.

z · Feb 20, 2007

Woody, would you please do this newsgroup a favor... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Once again, here's a reality check for you. Honda extended warranties
and/or issued recalls for many of those issues. If you look at long-term
reliability data in Consumer Reports or just about any other source, they
will say that Odyssey is still more reliable than any big 3 minivan.
Venture (since "replaced" by Upchucker, uh, I mean Uplander) is saddled with
a V6 that is prone to the expensive-to-fix intake manifold gasket problem
that GM still refuses to acknowledge. Ford and Crapsler minivans still have
higher rates of tranny failure than the Odyssey, and they never issued
recalls or extended warranties for them.

BTW, the OP is looking at a new Odyssey. The tranny issue was resolved by
the time it was redesigned for 2005.
Click to expand...

Yeah, Honda just mailed out like last week the notices of extended
warranties for the transmissions on all those Odysseys and the other
models with the problem. Meanwhile, I know lots of people with
Odysseys of that vintage, and none of them have actually encountered
the problem.

z · Feb 20, 2007

Woody, would you please do this newsgroup a favor... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Once again, here's a reality check for you. Honda extended warranties
and/or issued recalls for many of those issues. If you look at long-term
reliability data in Consumer Reports or just about any other source, they
will say that Odyssey is still more reliable than any big 3 minivan.
Venture (since "replaced" by Upchucker, uh, I mean Uplander) is saddled with
a V6 that is prone to the expensive-to-fix intake manifold gasket problem
that GM still refuses to acknowledge. Ford and Crapsler minivans still have
higher rates of tranny failure than the Odyssey, and they never issued
recalls or extended warranties for them.

BTW, the OP is looking at a new Odyssey. The tranny issue was resolved by
the time it was redesigned for 2005.
Click to expand...

Yeah, Honda just mailed out like last week the notices of extended
warranties for the transmissions on all those Odysseys and the other
models with the problem. Meanwhile, I know lots of people with
Odysseys of that vintage, and none of them have actually encountered
the problem.

z · Feb 20, 2007

Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
longer trust. 2 weeks ago needed the intake manifold repaired, now last
week the AWD stopped working. Initially they said needed a new rear diff.
to the tune of $3000. Told them to forget it. Later on, after they did
some more research, found some other tech articles suggesting just replacing
the AWD pump in the diff would do the trick. That was only $250 ($170 for
part plus labor). Went ahead with that gamble merely to keep it in as good
a shape as possible till we decide upon it's replacement.

It's not an issue of the dealer. I've dealt with them for many years on
prior vehicles and they've always been straight. It's I just don't trust
the vehicle any longer. Only has 96000 miles on it and seems like it is
falling apart.

3 vehicles we are looking at are the '07 Odyssey EX-L, the '07 Sienna XLE
with Package #3, or the MB R350 (my uncle works for them and can get me a
sweet lease even with a 20000 mile a year allowance.

I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
passenger. So that issue, and the 175,000 nearly trouble free miles on my
'01 Accord V6 EX-L has her leaning that way. Dealer is offering it to us
for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with that. Gonna see if I can work him
a little further and/or see what I can get out of him on our trade-in
(haven't even mentioned trade to dealer yet).

Ok, lots of irrelevant history out of the way...Just wanted to get that data
out there in case anybody else is currently comparing the same vehicles.

Any finance deals or incentives either rumored or confirmed in the upcoming
week or 2? Hoping there may be some rebates or financing incentives for the
upcoming President's day weekend.

Thanks
Click to expand...

Little late now, but... two caveats, maybe, if you were feeling
luxurious; lots of people who get the electric remote doors are
unhappy, because they are slow, can't be manually overridden, get
stuck on pebbles and things and have to recycle themselves slowly, and
won't operate if the vehicle isn't in park. (That last one seems odd
to me; are there a lot of carpool moms who want to just sort of slow
down in front of the school and fling the kids out the door like
paratroopers?)
Secondly, the runflat tires are like $250 each when it comes time to
replace, and if you decide not to go that route, then you need a new
set of wheels to fit "normal" tires.

z · Feb 20, 2007

Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
longer trust. 2 weeks ago needed the intake manifold repaired, now last
week the AWD stopped working. Initially they said needed a new rear diff.
to the tune of $3000. Told them to forget it. Later on, after they did
some more research, found some other tech articles suggesting just replacing
the AWD pump in the diff would do the trick. That was only $250 ($170 for
part plus labor). Went ahead with that gamble merely to keep it in as good
a shape as possible till we decide upon it's replacement.

It's not an issue of the dealer. I've dealt with them for many years on
prior vehicles and they've always been straight. It's I just don't trust
the vehicle any longer. Only has 96000 miles on it and seems like it is
falling apart.

3 vehicles we are looking at are the '07 Odyssey EX-L, the '07 Sienna XLE
with Package #3, or the MB R350 (my uncle works for them and can get me a
sweet lease even with a 20000 mile a year allowance.

I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
passenger. So that issue, and the 175,000 nearly trouble free miles on my
'01 Accord V6 EX-L has her leaning that way. Dealer is offering it to us
for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with that. Gonna see if I can work him
a little further and/or see what I can get out of him on our trade-in
(haven't even mentioned trade to dealer yet).

Ok, lots of irrelevant history out of the way...Just wanted to get that data
out there in case anybody else is currently comparing the same vehicles.

Any finance deals or incentives either rumored or confirmed in the upcoming
week or 2? Hoping there may be some rebates or financing incentives for the
upcoming President's day weekend.

Thanks
Click to expand...

Little late now, but... two caveats, maybe, if you were feeling
luxurious; lots of people who get the electric remote doors are
unhappy, because they are slow, can't be manually overridden, get
stuck on pebbles and things and have to recycle themselves slowly, and
won't operate if the vehicle isn't in park. (That last one seems odd
to me; are there a lot of carpool moms who want to just sort of slow
down in front of the school and fling the kids out the door like
paratroopers?)
Secondly, the runflat tires are like $250 each when it comes time to
replace, and if you decide not to go that route, then you need a new
set of wheels to fit "normal" tires.

z · Feb 20, 2007

Been looking to get the wife a new minivan. Her '02 Venture WB-Edition I no
longer trust. 2 weeks ago needed the intake manifold repaired, now last
week the AWD stopped working. Initially they said needed a new rear diff.
to the tune of $3000. Told them to forget it. Later on, after they did
some more research, found some other tech articles suggesting just replacing
the AWD pump in the diff would do the trick. That was only $250 ($170 for
part plus labor). Went ahead with that gamble merely to keep it in as good
a shape as possible till we decide upon it's replacement.

It's not an issue of the dealer. I've dealt with them for many years on
prior vehicles and they've always been straight. It's I just don't trust
the vehicle any longer. Only has 96000 miles on it and seems like it is
falling apart.

3 vehicles we are looking at are the '07 Odyssey EX-L, the '07 Sienna XLE
with Package #3, or the MB R350 (my uncle works for them and can get me a
sweet lease even with a 20000 mile a year allowance.

I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
passenger. So that issue, and the 175,000 nearly trouble free miles on my
'01 Accord V6 EX-L has her leaning that way. Dealer is offering it to us
for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with that. Gonna see if I can work him
a little further and/or see what I can get out of him on our trade-in
(haven't even mentioned trade to dealer yet).

Ok, lots of irrelevant history out of the way...Just wanted to get that data
out there in case anybody else is currently comparing the same vehicles.

Any finance deals or incentives either rumored or confirmed in the upcoming
week or 2? Hoping there may be some rebates or financing incentives for the
upcoming President's day weekend.

Thanks
Click to expand...

Little late now, but... two caveats, maybe, if you were feeling
luxurious; lots of people who get the electric remote doors are
unhappy, because they are slow, can't be manually overridden, get
stuck on pebbles and things and have to recycle themselves slowly, and
won't operate if the vehicle isn't in park. (That last one seems odd
to me; are there a lot of carpool moms who want to just sort of slow
down in front of the school and fling the kids out the door like
paratroopers?)
Secondly, the runflat tires are like $250 each when it comes time to
replace, and if you decide not to go that route, then you need a new
set of wheels to fit "normal" tires.

Probably gonna get an Odyssey...

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