Problem with 93 Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by chefkojak, Feb 21, 2006.

  1. chefkojak

    chefkojak Guest

    I have a problem with my 93 Accord 10th Anniv. Edition. It has 130k miles
    on it, spotless maintenance record. Tonight on my way home from work, the
    car began to shake badly, but settled down once I was on the highway. When
    I got off the highway onto the exit ramp, the shaking began again really
    badly, moving in a front and back motion almost. It settled down again,
    but anytime I slow the car down to stop or turn, the shaking begins again.
    Anyone know what could be the cause of this, and what I can do to fix it
    quick and in a hurry? Thanks in advance.
     
    chefkojak, Feb 21, 2006
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  2. chefkojak

    Remco Guest

    Does the engine run normal when it shakes? You're not losing power or
    anything?
    If you stand still and rev the engine, does the car shake?

    There are many things that could cause shaking, but the simplest to
    check would be tires tires (if it only happens while rolling): One of
    the tires may have lost a weight.
    If it shakes while standing still and revving, check the motor mounts.

    Remco
     
    Remco, Feb 21, 2006
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  3. chefkojak

    chefkojak Guest

    No loss of power, can drive normally once back up to speed, just when I am
    slowing down to stop or turn.
     
    chefkojak, Feb 21, 2006
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  4. chefkojak

    Remco Guest

    See if you can determine wheter it is coming from the tires or
    elsewhere. You could do this by process of elimination:

    Inspect your ties for bulges or damage. If you don't see any, swap the
    tires back to front and see if it changes. It could be that a weight
    fell off or something is wrong with your tires.

    If could also be a mechanical issue like a CV joint, engine mount, etc
    - if you swap your tires and the problem does not move or change, the
    problem is most likely mechanical in nature.

    Report back so it can help others here with future problems.
    Remco
     
    Remco, Feb 21, 2006
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  5. chefkojak

    Remco Guest

    See if you can determine wheter it is coming from the tires or
    elsewhere. You could do this by process of elimination:

    Inspect your ties for bulges or damage. If you don't see any, swap the
    tires back to front and see if it changes. It could be that a weight
    fell off or something is wrong with your tires.

    If could also be a mechanical issue like a CV joint, engine mount, etc
    - if you swap your tires and the problem does not move or change, the
    problem is most likely mechanical in nature.

    Report back so it can help others here with future problems.
    Remco
     
    Remco, Feb 21, 2006
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  6. chefkojak

    chefkojak Guest

    As I attempted to drive the vehicle again, I noticed that the shaking does
    occur when the vehicle is not in motion. The general consensus amongst
    friends, coworkers, and family (many of whom are what I call
    "quasi-mechanics") is that is either the motor mount, or the tie rod. So,
    to be on the safe side, my buddy and I are going to change both on
    Thursday.
    Thanks again for the help, Remco, I appreciate it. Let you all know how it
    goes and if that is truly the problem after we change both.
     
    chefkojak, Feb 22, 2006
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  7. The tie rod? If you're sitting there still and the car's shaking, the tie
    rod isn't even moving. It's part of the steering. Sounds to me like you
    have classic "rough idle". There's a procedure in the manual for diagnosing
    this. I'd be looking at cleaning the induction system and maybe some fuel
    injection cleaner. Then if that has no affect, I'd look at the ignition
    system, wires plugs and the like.

    It might be the motor mount too but, on most Honda's they're easily
    inspected. The one I'd suspect if the engine rocks fore and aft is the one
    from the tranny to the rear crossmember. That one's a bitch to change, at
    least on an integra and civic, I haven't done one on an accord.
     
    Dufus Systems, Feb 22, 2006
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  8. chefkojak

    Remco Guest

    Yup, listen to Dufus - he clearly knows his stuff. Your name is clearly
    a misnomer, Dufus :)

    If it is happening while standing still, it might be the motor mount or
    the way the car is running. Motor mount problems often show themselves
    when you rev the engine, not so much when it is idling.
    Does it idle badly? You can often feel it by putting your hand on the
    exhaust outlet - don't touch it, but you'll be able to feel if the car
    is missing or is running irregularly.
    If it runs badly, clearly check ignition, timing and fuel delivery.
    Also see if you have a vacuum leak. Spritz a little starting fluid
    around vacuum hoses and see if the sound of the engine changes or RPM
    picks up temporarily. If it does, inspect the vicinity of where you
    spritzed as you'll most likely have a vacuum leak there.
    Check www.tegger.com for general things to check for.

    I would not bother replacing a tie rod unless you are having a
    different problem steering. It would most likely not be related to your
    problem.

    Good luck. Do report back with your findings as it may help someone
    else out.

    Remco
     
    Remco, Feb 22, 2006
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  9. One time, I was at the race track, and hit second instead of 4th at 90
    MPH. Tach pegged at 10K RPM before I punched the clutch back in. I ran
    around the track for another 5 minutes with my fingers crossed hoping I
    hadn't damaged anything. Parked it. When it was time for the next
    session, I started it up and then shut it right down. Was vibrating like
    hell. I had both broken that rear motor mount AND bent a couple valves.
    Good thing it was a honda motor though. I was able to limp it 5 hours
    home. It would smooth out at 3500 RPM so, it didn't feel that bad. Ended
    up costing me $1500 to fix.

    chefkojak, you never miss shifted did you? It's fairly common to mis-
    shift a honda if you're playing boy racer. Bend a valve by over-revving
    and you'll have to get the head re-built.
     
    Dufus Systems, Feb 22, 2006
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  10. chefkojak

    chefkojak Guest

    It's an automatic, and I drive like an old woman since my accident 3 years
    ago. *laughs*

    Turns out it was a stupid problem I should have taken care of myself. My
    fuel injection system was dirty, and (not sure how this happened) but one
    of my spark plugs was fouled. Got it cleaned and changed the plugs, runs
    just fine.
     
    chefkojak, Feb 25, 2006
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  11. Look at that, Induction AND ignition system.
     
    Dufus Systems, Feb 25, 2006
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  12. chefkojak

    mmdir2005 Guest

    How do you clean a dirty fuel injection system? Did you used bottle of
    chemical to clean it?
     
    mmdir2005, Feb 25, 2006
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  13. chefkojak

    Remco Guest

    Congrats on keeping that money in your pocket!
    Glad it wasn't a big deal.
     
    Remco, Feb 26, 2006
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