Protecting a (Honda) Home Generator from Mice

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mgkelson, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. mgkelson

    You Guest

    Shoot the cats......
     
    You, Sep 21, 2006
    #21
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    Stephen B. Guest

    "Stan de SD" wrote
    get a dog?
     
    Stephen B., Sep 21, 2006
    #22
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    Tom S Guest

    So many cats, so few recipes. <sigh>
     
    Tom S, Sep 21, 2006
    #23
  4. mgkelson

    Guest Guest

    Is this the story that ends with the line "I dunno why she swallowed the
    fly....I guess she'll die"? I've heard it!

    Eric Lucas
     
    Guest, Sep 21, 2006
    #24
  5. mgkelson

    beav Guest

    FWIW, my next door neighbor had his garden tractor's electrical system
    eaten out by mice (no real loss - the tractor was a hangar queen
    anyway). that's when the mechanics told him about putting new dryer
    sheets in the electrical areas and around the engine.

    frankly, i'd go for the moth balls, and when i get back from this
    weekend, i think i'm going that way.

    of course, last night, i ran out and covered my new tractor with dryer
    sheets...
     
    beav, Sep 22, 2006
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  6. mgkelson

    Guest Guest

    8^D I've heard that term used as regards Jags, but never a lowly garden
    tractor.

    I assume you are implying that you prefer the smell of mothballs to that of
    dryer sheets. That may be the case after short-term exposure, but the
    mothball smell really hangs around and gets into things, and quickly becomes
    irritating. Have you read the (probably apocryphal) story about the guy
    that thought he would outsmart a squirrel by using mothballs to drive it
    away? The story goes that the squirrel got the last laugh by taking all the
    mothballs and stashing them in the wall of this guy's house. The smell was
    so into intolerable that he had to tear down the wall and clean it out.
    Like I said, probably an urban legend, but certainly the purported effect is
    plausible.

    I wonder if it's the chemicals or the perfumes in the dryer sheets that
    repel rodents? If it's the chemicals, than odorless dryer sheets might be
    just the ticket.

    Eric Lucas
     
    Guest, Sep 22, 2006
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    Nick Hull Guest

    I put my cat food dish neat my generator ;)
     
    Nick Hull, Sep 24, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    Just make sure you know where the poor critters are when the generator
    starts up.... That housing could be a mighty cozy place to sleep.

    Eric Lucas
     
    Guest, Sep 24, 2006
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    Gordon Guest

    I had the sad experience of this happening to my old kitty
    Patches. She crawled up alongside the warm car engine one cold
    winter day and didn't get out when I started the car again. She
    stayed there about a mile, then jumped out in heavy traffic. That
    was the last chapter of her sweet little life.

    Gordon
     
    Gordon, Sep 24, 2006
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    Nick Hull Guest

    I have replacements, they can't ALL sleep ther;)
     
    Nick Hull, Sep 25, 2006
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    beav Guest



    the tractor is in the shed. they can drag those moth balls anywhere
    they like. : )

    i've got 2 cats and i know how to use them.

    whatever it takes..
     
    beav, Sep 25, 2006
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  12. Use sticky pads and mouse traps that both are baited.

    Make them come to you and when trapped they stay put.

    Also cover the openings on the generator with tape...no bugs, mice or
    other things will crawl in.

    Checking the traps on a regular basis is a good excuse to do regular
    preventive maintainance on the generator...you DO want the generator to
    work when it is needed, don't you?

    TMT
     
    Too_Many_Tools, Sep 26, 2006
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  13. mgkelson

    modervador Guest

    I would not screen the critical ventillation openings of the generator
    with fine mesh, for fear it will restrict airflow and compromise the
    machine.

    Either build the box out of mesh (or somethin else) or if you simply
    must guard only the generator openings, use the coarsest mesh you think
    you can get away with.

    Myself, I just invert a plastic tub over the genny when I'm not using
    it. It doesn't make a perfect seal with the slab, so the gas vapors
    never reach the required richness to be a combustion risk, and they
    dissipate quickly when the tub is lifted anyway. I suppose a few vent
    holes with fine mesh over them wouldn't hurt.

    %MOD%
     
    modervador, Sep 26, 2006
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    mgkelson Guest

    One thing interesting about Honda generators, incidentally, is that the
    manual for the 2000i, requires that the gas tank be drained for
    long-term storage. On the otherhand, the 3000i says that the gas tank
    should be filled with fresh gas (mixed with conditioner) for long-term
    storage. Then before you use it again you are supposed to drain the gas
    out and refill it with fresh gas.

    It makes you wonder if there is a valid reason for using the two
    different methods or if the instructions were simply written by
    different engineers.

    Maybe the 2000i has a plastic tank and the 3000i has a steel tank? I
    dunno.
     
    mgkelson, Sep 28, 2006
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  15. In response to the original question, I have found a VERY effective
    solution. I bought a container of the hottest powdered pepper I could
    find, habanero powder, and sprinkeled it all around my electrical
    cords and generator. The miice (rats in my case) walk across it and
    get it on their paws, then when they start to chew it burns they
    mouths. This by the way is very effective to keep racoons away from
    your garden as well. Just remember to wash YOUR hands after working on
    it!
     
    Bob Ferapples, Oct 12, 2006
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  16. mgkelson

    Guest Guest

    Good idea! Your post just reminded me that this is an old trick to keep
    squirrels out of your bird feeder. Apparently mammals have capsaicin pain
    receptors, but birds don't.

    Capsaicin cream may work even better on wires, etc., although it's more
    expensive.

    Eric Lucas
     
    Guest, Oct 12, 2006
    #36
  17. As pointed out to me by an animal protection nut once time when I
    suggested the bird feeder trick, while it's true that birds don't have
    the pain receptors for capsaicin like mammals do it gets in their eyes
    and burns them anyway, imparing their vision. Birds can't fly on
    instruments!
     
    Bob Ferapples, Oct 12, 2006
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  18. mgkelson

    Guest Guest

    It's not clear to me that that should be true. Capsaicin is not an
    intrinsically corrosive chemical, nor is it intrinsically damaging to flesh.
    The only thing that causes burns when it gets on human flesh is the body's
    physiological response to its presence, which only happens because of its
    very specific interaction with a receptor that apparently birds don't have.
    As a molecule, it contains a phenol and an amide. The phenol is likely
    mildly irritating in a non-specfic way, but it's very electron-rich, so its
    pKa is going to be pretty high.

    Eric Lucas
     
    Guest, Oct 12, 2006
    #38
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    mgkelson Guest

    One thing I'm thinking about doing with my Honda 3000i, at least as a
    temporary measure, is getting a couple of inexpensive plastic tarps and
    "double bagging" it and then tying the open end of the tarp up with
    some wire/cable tires.

    With the inside "bag" I could put some dryer sheets and some Desiccant
    Container Dry. With the outside bag I might be able to put some
    mothballs since it should be mostly airtight. Then I could sprinkle
    some habanero powder around the generator.

    Another thing I've thought about is putting the Honda 3000 cover on
    from the bottom. This should cover all the holes. Then I could put some
    dryer sheets and some desiccant inside the cover and sprinkle the
    habanero around the outside or maybe spray the cover with some sort of
    repellant.

    Eventually, I think I'll probably build my own custom box.
     
    mgkelson, Oct 16, 2006
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