Question on air compressor

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Frank, Jan 15, 2006.

  1. That was a big concern - the motor generates a lot of heat.

    I tore the unit down enough to get a look at the compressor, and it turns
    out the intake is essentially the same space as the underside of the piston.
    I didn't see any practical way to create an intake muffler, so I reassembled
    everything. I am thinking of placing the compressor in the crawl space and
    the tank in the garage, so the noise can be exiled while the maintenance of
    the tank can be done in the garage, but I fear the noise will be spread into
    the house if I'm not careful.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 16, 2006
    #21
  2. That was a big concern - the motor generates a lot of heat.

    I tore the unit down enough to get a look at the compressor, and it turns
    out the intake is essentially the same space as the underside of the piston.
    I didn't see any practical way to create an intake muffler, so I reassembled
    everything. I am thinking of placing the compressor in the crawl space and
    the tank in the garage, so the noise can be exiled while the maintenance of
    the tank can be done in the garage, but I fear the noise will be spread into
    the house if I'm not careful.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 16, 2006
    #22
  3. Sprayers take a lot of flow. If your wanting to spray stuff like that, just
    buy an airless paint sprayer.

    Heavy duty impact tools, by contrast, require high pressures and
    you need a dual-stage compressor for that. For example I have
    a 1 inch chuck impact tool. I rarely use it (very rarely) but it is
    strong enough to break axle nuts free without having to jump up
    and down on a cheater wondering if your going to snap your
    breaker bar. However, 120psi is about the -minimum- it requires
    to operate.

    What the small compressors are sold for is running stuff like
    nail guns, so you can use a nail gun to nail your new deck together.
    But that's about all they are useful for.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 16, 2006
    #23
  4. Sprayers take a lot of flow. If your wanting to spray stuff like that, just
    buy an airless paint sprayer.

    Heavy duty impact tools, by contrast, require high pressures and
    you need a dual-stage compressor for that. For example I have
    a 1 inch chuck impact tool. I rarely use it (very rarely) but it is
    strong enough to break axle nuts free without having to jump up
    and down on a cheater wondering if your going to snap your
    breaker bar. However, 120psi is about the -minimum- it requires
    to operate.

    What the small compressors are sold for is running stuff like
    nail guns, so you can use a nail gun to nail your new deck together.
    But that's about all they are useful for.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 16, 2006
    #24

  5. A small auto muffler can be modified for air compressor usage. Did that
    back east...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jan 16, 2006
    #25

  6. A small auto muffler can be modified for air compressor usage. Did that
    back east...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jan 16, 2006
    #26
  7. Sounds like just the thing! How did you fit it to the compressor?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 16, 2006
    #27
  8. Sounds like just the thing! How did you fit it to the compressor?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 16, 2006
    #28
  9. Consumer quality compressors now have rating numbers, with a chart to show
    what tools require. The 8 cfm 140 psi single stage noisemaker I have is
    rated "4" and works the 1/2 inch impact tool I'm using, for the casual pace
    I keep at home. It would be completely inadequate in a busy shop. It
    struggles to keep up with a conventional spray gun and I haven't had the
    nerve to try it with an HVLP sprayer.

    To get rated impact out of any tool requires delivering rated pressure at
    the tool, and 1/2 inch hose has a bunch of drop for air gobblers like that.
    To get a crank bolt loose with the 500 ft-lb impact I had to put the
    regulator right at the tool and run the hose at 120-140 psi. That did the
    job, though. Axle nuts don't resist even with the regulator at the tank. I
    don't know how I got along without it.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 16, 2006
    #29
  10. Consumer quality compressors now have rating numbers, with a chart to show
    what tools require. The 8 cfm 140 psi single stage noisemaker I have is
    rated "4" and works the 1/2 inch impact tool I'm using, for the casual pace
    I keep at home. It would be completely inadequate in a busy shop. It
    struggles to keep up with a conventional spray gun and I haven't had the
    nerve to try it with an HVLP sprayer.

    To get rated impact out of any tool requires delivering rated pressure at
    the tool, and 1/2 inch hose has a bunch of drop for air gobblers like that.
    To get a crank bolt loose with the 500 ft-lb impact I had to put the
    regulator right at the tool and run the hose at 120-140 psi. That did the
    job, though. Axle nuts don't resist even with the regulator at the tank. I
    don't know how I got along without it.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 16, 2006
    #30
  11. Frank

    thehick Guest

    I have this compressor. It was good for blowing passageways
    in carbs or cleaning off furnace filters. not much else. i got
    it when it was half price so it's ok for that price. it's not much
    good for blowing up air matresses as it doesn't have enough
    cfm. and lots of noise when it's in the house.
    i wouldn't get it unless it's all you can afford.
    ....thehick
     
    thehick, Jan 16, 2006
    #31
  12. Frank

    thehick Guest

    I have this compressor. It was good for blowing passageways
    in carbs or cleaning off furnace filters. not much else. i got
    it when it was half price so it's ok for that price. it's not much
    good for blowing up air matresses as it doesn't have enough
    cfm. and lots of noise when it's in the house.
    i wouldn't get it unless it's all you can afford.
    ....thehick
     
    thehick, Jan 16, 2006
    #32
  13. Frank

    Frank Guest

    Thanks to all who replied. I think I will pass. The idea of
    renting it at Home Depot or someone else was brilliant. Might
    cost more over the long run, but I do not need to store it
    anywhere...

    Cheers all!
     
    Frank, Jan 17, 2006
    #33
  14. Frank

    Frank Guest

    Thanks to all who replied. I think I will pass. The idea of
    renting it at Home Depot or someone else was brilliant. Might
    cost more over the long run, but I do not need to store it
    anywhere...

    Cheers all!
     
    Frank, Jan 17, 2006
    #34
  15. I have a 3 horsepower twin cylinder belt driven with a 20 gallon tank.
    It is located deep in my basement, underground, and I just run air
    hose to my working spot ( I made a feed-thru to get the hose outside
    ).

    This is the _minimum_ I would recommend to anyone. I put it in the
    basement to minimize noise, but mostly to conserve space and protect
    it from the elements. It is on its' own electrical circuit ( I had an
    electrician make a circuit just for this compressor ).

    I've use all air tools with this, and an HVLP spray gun, and it works
    fine. It didn't cost more than $300 IIRC, so was a good investment.
    You could spend that much on 1 electric tool.

    If I had it to do over again, most likely I would go for either more
    HP ( 5 ) or a larger tank, or both.

    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Jan 17, 2006
    #35
  16. I have a 3 horsepower twin cylinder belt driven with a 20 gallon tank.
    It is located deep in my basement, underground, and I just run air
    hose to my working spot ( I made a feed-thru to get the hose outside
    ).

    This is the _minimum_ I would recommend to anyone. I put it in the
    basement to minimize noise, but mostly to conserve space and protect
    it from the elements. It is on its' own electrical circuit ( I had an
    electrician make a circuit just for this compressor ).

    I've use all air tools with this, and an HVLP spray gun, and it works
    fine. It didn't cost more than $300 IIRC, so was a good investment.
    You could spend that much on 1 electric tool.

    If I had it to do over again, most likely I would go for either more
    HP ( 5 ) or a larger tank, or both.

    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Jan 17, 2006
    #36


  17. Adapters from your friendly FLAPS...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jan 17, 2006
    #37


  18. Adapters from your friendly FLAPS...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jan 17, 2006
    #38
  19. Link didn't go anywhere. OK, lets try search:

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    Text description below sounds like a home duty compressor for occasional
    use. Should work.

    --

    Christopher A. Young
    You can't shout down a troll.
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    ..

    Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts!

    I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work,
    nothing too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full
    continuous operation as long it can spray a few things in, say,
    15 to 20 seconds burst, like: deck stain (light oil base),
    oil-based rust proofing (like light oil Rust Check sold at
    Canadian Tire and elsewhere) and latex paint. I am not interested
    in using it for more powerful air tools.

    I am considering this air compressor from Canadian Tire. Would
    this do the job?

    Thanks again,

    http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396669738&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1137343847916&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443248031&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true

    If this link does not work, here are the details:

    Campbell Hausfeld 1/3-hp, 3-gallon Electric Air Compressor
    a.. 1/3-hp peak/3-gallon with 100-psi max
    a.. 120V
    a.. Pump: 3,000 rpm
    a.. 25' air hose with air chuck, one-touch coupler (1/4"),
    inflator gun, 2 inflation needles, inflation nozzle, Teflon pipe
    tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included
    a.. Model No. 410788
     
    Stormin Mormon, Jan 17, 2006
    #39
  20. Dear Frank,
    I think your original post sounded like occasional use.

    --

    Christopher A. Young
    You can't shout down a troll.
    You have to starve them.
    ..


    Thanks for the suggestion. I will pass then. Cheers!
     
    Stormin Mormon, Jan 17, 2006
    #40
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