Questions about new Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. I've just bought an 09 Accord. A couple of little questions please...

    Never had a honda before. This Memory Minder that tells us when
    things need to be done, etc.... I've read the manual well, but one
    thing
    that isn't clear to me. Let's say I do my first oil change at 5k
    miles,
    and reset the Minder's oil indicator back to 100%. This of course
    should not effect the Minder's tracking of the other things that won't
    need to be done till later, right? I know this may seem dumb,
    but they don't cover this at all in the manual.

    Let's say, on down the road, say at 20k miles or so, I get the little
    symbol that I need to change the air filter. After I change that,
    and reset the air filter tracking, I wouldn't want to also reset
    the oil change tracking without changing the oil, etc., etc.
    I assume that with one or more symbols lit on the cluster,
    I would be able to toggle to reset each one as I do the maintenance.
    Is this the way it works?

    Also, I seem to have a minor steering wheel shimmy at around
    60-65 mph. The car has new Michelins and the car only had
    6 miles on it when I bought it. I wonder if those little air pressure
    sensors could present a wee bit of a problem for wheel balancing.
    Also, about these sensors in the tires, when the time comes
    for buying new tires, I assume they will just remove the things
    and put them in the new tires. Correct? Do some people just
    do away with these things after a while. I frankly don't need them
    myself as I always keep tabs on things like proper air pressure
    in my tires. We do like the car though, and hope to drive
    it a LONG time. Thanks for any good feedback.
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
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  2. The MM is tracking everything, no?

    Are you saying you are resetting the OIL LIFE ONLY? Is that an option?
    Or are you just resetting the MM?

    The MM tracks everything.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 15, 2008
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  3. The MM is tracking everything, no?

    Are you saying you are resetting the OIL LIFE ONLY? Is that an option?
    Or are you just resetting the MM?

    The MM tracks everything.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 15, 2008
    #3
  4. rev_otis_mcnatt

    Justbob30 Guest

    Here's an idea, let the maintenance minder do its job, it will tell you
    based on several things which are monitored when service needs to be done.
    Changing your oil at 5,000 miles is wasteful of both your money and a
    natural resource. Depending on your driving conditions you may need to
    change at 5k, maybe 10k but, maybe not, why waste? let go, let Honda :).
     
    Justbob30, Oct 15, 2008
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  5. rev_otis_mcnatt

    Justbob30 Guest

    Here's an idea, let the maintenance minder do its job, it will tell you
    based on several things which are monitored when service needs to be done.
    Changing your oil at 5,000 miles is wasteful of both your money and a
    natural resource. Depending on your driving conditions you may need to
    change at 5k, maybe 10k but, maybe not, why waste? let go, let Honda :).
     
    Justbob30, Oct 15, 2008
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  6. Okay, I'll try again. At present, the car has only about 700 miles
    on it. I can
    toggle from Oil Life to "Trip A" and "Trip B" which are odometers.
    The manual
    tells me how to reset the MM when the oil is changed, by holding down
    the
    button for 15 seconds or so. What happens later when other things
    need
    to be done that I get messages (symbols) for---change air filter,
    plugs,
    transmission fluid, etc.? I assume I will be able to toggle to reset
    those
    when that service is done, without of course affecting the Oil Life
    tracking.
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
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  7. Okay, I'll try again. At present, the car has only about 700 miles
    on it. I can
    toggle from Oil Life to "Trip A" and "Trip B" which are odometers.
    The manual
    tells me how to reset the MM when the oil is changed, by holding down
    the
    button for 15 seconds or so. What happens later when other things
    need
    to be done that I get messages (symbols) for---change air filter,
    plugs,
    transmission fluid, etc.? I assume I will be able to toggle to reset
    those
    when that service is done, without of course affecting the Oil Life
    tracking.
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
    #7
  8. Uh yes, I know. My question is about resetting after various service
    is done.
    I am actually quite an expert on the subject of oil changes, but I
    digress.
    I am a former BMW owner and always did my own service, but this
    Honda MM is new to me. This 5k oil change is for the car's first
    off-the-assembly-line oil change. The dealership thinks they are
    going to get to do the service work on the car and already has
    me scheduled for this initial 5k oil change--which is not a bad
    idea for any new car with factory oil in a brand new engine.
    But the popular myth of oil changes every 3k miles being
    a swell idea....it is overkill, and wasteful. 5-8k mile oil changes
    are the best window to shoot for for most drivers. I'm not a big
    fan of going more than about 8500 miles on the same oil, synthetic
    or conventional.
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
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  9. Uh yes, I know. My question is about resetting after various service
    is done.
    I am actually quite an expert on the subject of oil changes, but I
    digress.
    I am a former BMW owner and always did my own service, but this
    Honda MM is new to me. This 5k oil change is for the car's first
    off-the-assembly-line oil change. The dealership thinks they are
    going to get to do the service work on the car and already has
    me scheduled for this initial 5k oil change--which is not a bad
    idea for any new car with factory oil in a brand new engine.
    But the popular myth of oil changes every 3k miles being
    a swell idea....it is overkill, and wasteful. 5-8k mile oil changes
    are the best window to shoot for for most drivers. I'm not a big
    fan of going more than about 8500 miles on the same oil, synthetic
    or conventional.
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
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  10. rev_otis_mcnatt

    Justbob30 Guest

    Sorry, no, leave the break in oil in until the car tells you it needs
    changing, any dealer worth their salt will tell you that. Oil changes at
    pre set intervals are no longer the rule....They do however turn a nice
    profit for the dealership if you insist....but as impressed as I am you
    owned a BMW (not) which....well makes you an expert because?
    I however do not claim to be an expert, so, do as you wish it is after all
    your money, it is however our planet and with any luck you will use a
    dealership that properly recycles (under)used oil.
     
    Justbob30, Oct 15, 2008
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  11. rev_otis_mcnatt

    Justbob30 Guest

    Sorry, no, leave the break in oil in until the car tells you it needs
    changing, any dealer worth their salt will tell you that. Oil changes at
    pre set intervals are no longer the rule....They do however turn a nice
    profit for the dealership if you insist....but as impressed as I am you
    owned a BMW (not) which....well makes you an expert because?
    I however do not claim to be an expert, so, do as you wish it is after all
    your money, it is however our planet and with any luck you will use a
    dealership that properly recycles (under)used oil.
     
    Justbob30, Oct 15, 2008
    #11
  12. More so than the engineers at Honda?

    Are you an expert on oil changes in Honda's engines?

    Working at Jiffy Lube doesn't count.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 15, 2008
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  13. More so than the engineers at Honda?

    Are you an expert on oil changes in Honda's engines?

    Working at Jiffy Lube doesn't count.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 15, 2008
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  14. No.

    the MM tracks everything.

    Reset the MM, reset everything.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 15, 2008
    #14
  15. No.

    the MM tracks everything.

    Reset the MM, reset everything.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 15, 2008
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  16. During the years I owned those cars, I did a great deal of "research"
    on the very common subject of argument with "car people": oil
    changes..
    best types/brands and frequency of change. As I've said, changing
    out factory oil in a new engine is not a bad idea at 5k miles. I also
    don't want to give the dealership ANY reason to try to weasel in the
    event of future warranty work, which they are known for.
    I care very much about conservation and environment, but it amazes me
    that no one here has understood my actual question about resetting.
    Honda owners? I think I'll try some of the forums and hope for
    at least higher I.Q's.
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
    #16
  17. During the years I owned those cars, I did a great deal of "research"
    on the very common subject of argument with "car people": oil
    changes..
    best types/brands and frequency of change. As I've said, changing
    out factory oil in a new engine is not a bad idea at 5k miles. I also
    don't want to give the dealership ANY reason to try to weasel in the
    event of future warranty work, which they are known for.
    I care very much about conservation and environment, but it amazes me
    that no one here has understood my actual question about resetting.
    Honda owners? I think I'll try some of the forums and hope for
    at least higher I.Q's.
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
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  18. So, you're telling me that when I change only the oil and reset the
    MM, that
    all the other maintenance item are also reset, even with the other
    items
    not being replaced/serviced? Do you think about what you write? Do
    you even think?
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
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  19. So, you're telling me that when I change only the oil and reset the
    MM, that
    all the other maintenance item are also reset, even with the other
    items
    not being replaced/serviced? Do you think about what you write? Do
    you even think?
     
    rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008
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  20. rev_otis_mcnatt

    Pszemol Guest

    So how are you going to prove that you have changed the oil?
    Traditional way was to show a copy of the invoice from the shop...
    In case of DIY, how do you do it?

    I change my oil or ATF and properly recycle it bringing used oil
    to local PepBoys shop but I wonder what troubles I am facing
    in case I will have contested warranty claim and warrantor
    wants to see all the proof of maintenance done on this car...
    Yes, I have purchased maintenance fluids, filters and kept
    the receipts, but from the legal point of view they proof only
    the fact I purchased these items. Statement can be made
    that I have actually never gone about doing these things and
    oil filter is still sitting on my garrage shelf :)
    I have 2004 without this feature and probably there is not many
    other group members with 2009 AND knowing how it works...

    I fully understant your question and I am also quite surprised
    with Elmo's answer :) I alsodo not know how really does it work,
    we can only guess. As a computer engineer I can infer that if
    the whole "user interface" consists of holding the single button
    to reset the indicator IT MUST be done the way you reset
    each thing separatelly. Each managed item like the oil life, air
    filter, ATF would have its own maintenance period requirement
    and clearing the warning would affect only this particular item.
    As you probably agree it would be silly if changing the engine
    oil every 5-8k miles and reseting the minder would also clear
    the "timer" for the ATF or air filter.

    In case you do some service which is not reported yet, so
    lets say you replace air filter before the air filter icon pops up
    on the screen, you as a user will not have the proper "user
    interface" to clear the minder. I am guessing clearing such
    thing before the indicator is there on the screen can be done
    only accessing the computer through the OBD-II connector
    if possible at all.

    There is also another thing to think about... The state of the oil
    is not directly measured with any sensor - it is "calculated"
    using some routine based on the car usage... The same is
    probably done for ATF or air filter.
     
    Pszemol, Oct 15, 2008
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