Questions about new Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by rev_otis_mcnatt, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. rev_otis_mcnatt

    jim beam Guest

    so where is your oil analysis? why does the "expert" change synthetic
    oil after only 8.5k?

    i'm unimpressed with your formula btw. that may have been an
    approximation from back in the 70's, but we've moved on a little since
    then...
     
    jim beam, Oct 19, 2008
    #81
  2. rev_otis_mcnatt

    jim beam Guest

    so where is your oil analysis? why does the "expert" change synthetic
    oil after only 8.5k?

    i'm unimpressed with your formula btw. that may have been an
    approximation from back in the 70's, but we've moved on a little since
    then...
     
    jim beam, Oct 19, 2008
    #82
  3. rev_otis_mcnatt

    jim beam Guest

    <snip crap>

    let's go back to where all this b.s. started. you said:
    "I am actually quite an expert on the subject of oil changes".

    apparently that's not true since you don't seem to know /why/ oil needs
    to get changed - and no, it's not the color - or seem to bother with oil
    analysis.

    basically dude, if you don't know stuff, that's fine, but don't try to
    bullshit your way out of the corner you've painted yourself into. and
    /definitely/ don't try to bullshit people that /do/ know more than you.
    if you bothered to pay attention, maybe you'd even learn something.
     
    jim beam, Oct 19, 2008
    #83
  4. rev_otis_mcnatt

    jim beam Guest

    <snip crap>

    let's go back to where all this b.s. started. you said:
    "I am actually quite an expert on the subject of oil changes".

    apparently that's not true since you don't seem to know /why/ oil needs
    to get changed - and no, it's not the color - or seem to bother with oil
    analysis.

    basically dude, if you don't know stuff, that's fine, but don't try to
    bullshit your way out of the corner you've painted yourself into. and
    /definitely/ don't try to bullshit people that /do/ know more than you.
    if you bothered to pay attention, maybe you'd even learn something.
     
    jim beam, Oct 19, 2008
    #84
  5. Because Brian and Otis KNOW BETTER, didn't you read? They're EXPERTS.

    And you know, it isn't every day that you run across EXPERTS on the
    Usenet. Cherish the time they spend with us.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 19, 2008
    #85
  6. Because Brian and Otis KNOW BETTER, didn't you read? They're EXPERTS.

    And you know, it isn't every day that you run across EXPERTS on the
    Usenet. Cherish the time they spend with us.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 19, 2008
    #86
  7. Is that current?

    And how does that matter to how Honda does it?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 19, 2008
    #87
  8. Is that current?

    And how does that matter to how Honda does it?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 19, 2008
    #88
  9. rev_otis_mcnatt

    L Alpert Guest

    I'd like to see it integrated into the touch screen for vehicles with
    the navi system.
     
    L Alpert, Oct 19, 2008
    #89
  10. rev_otis_mcnatt

    L Alpert Guest

    I'd like to see it integrated into the touch screen for vehicles with
    the navi system.
     
    L Alpert, Oct 19, 2008
    #90
  11. rev_otis_mcnatt

    jim beam Guest

    i'm sure it'll happen, but the problem is that the navigation system is
    a specialist package, just like the engine management system is a
    specialist package. the guys that design one, don't design the other.
    to integrate them means having them both hosted by yet another system.
    then you're looking at a car whose software takes 4 minutes to boot
    before the engine runs and... well, it won't be that bad, but "modular"
    and "stand alone" make a lot of sense.
     
    jim beam, Oct 19, 2008
    #91
  12. rev_otis_mcnatt

    jim beam Guest

    i'm sure it'll happen, but the problem is that the navigation system is
    a specialist package, just like the engine management system is a
    specialist package. the guys that design one, don't design the other.
    to integrate them means having them both hosted by yet another system.
    then you're looking at a car whose software takes 4 minutes to boot
    before the engine runs and... well, it won't be that bad, but "modular"
    and "stand alone" make a lot of sense.
     
    jim beam, Oct 19, 2008
    #92
  13. rev_otis_mcnatt

    Brian Smith Guest

    Not necessarily experts, but we apparently know what works the best for
    our applications and that is the bottom line.
    In much the same way in which we cherish the amount of time you not
    necessarily yourself, but certainly little Jimmy spends here dispensing
    *wisdom*.
     
    Brian Smith, Oct 19, 2008
    #93
  14. rev_otis_mcnatt

    Brian Smith Guest

    Not necessarily experts, but we apparently know what works the best for
    our applications and that is the bottom line.
    In much the same way in which we cherish the amount of time you not
    necessarily yourself, but certainly little Jimmy spends here dispensing
    *wisdom*.
     
    Brian Smith, Oct 19, 2008
    #94
  15. rev_otis_mcnatt

    L Alpert Guest

    My '04 Navi takes about 30 seconds to load and be useful, which also
    includes all of the controls for a lot of other functions (though
    there are push button controls available as well, but they're no fun
    to use!).

    In a not too distant future, touchscreen controls will be common place
    for even low end models as they become less expensive and easier to
    program and wire to PLC type controls (I frequently use them for
    equipment designs, and small touch screens can be had quite cheaply
    these days, as well as PLC controls). All that is needed to interface
    the two is a network cable.
     
    L Alpert, Oct 19, 2008
    #95
  16. rev_otis_mcnatt

    L Alpert Guest

    My '04 Navi takes about 30 seconds to load and be useful, which also
    includes all of the controls for a lot of other functions (though
    there are push button controls available as well, but they're no fun
    to use!).

    In a not too distant future, touchscreen controls will be common place
    for even low end models as they become less expensive and easier to
    program and wire to PLC type controls (I frequently use them for
    equipment designs, and small touch screens can be had quite cheaply
    these days, as well as PLC controls). All that is needed to interface
    the two is a network cable.
     
    L Alpert, Oct 19, 2008
    #96
  17. Absolutely. Because you know EVERYTHING about how your engine is
    designed and manufactured--more so than even the engineers who designed
    it.


    Oh no, we cherish the time YOU choose to spend here, dispensing your
    wisdom.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 19, 2008
    #97
  18. Absolutely. Because you know EVERYTHING about how your engine is
    designed and manufactured--more so than even the engineers who designed
    it.


    Oh no, we cherish the time YOU choose to spend here, dispensing your
    wisdom.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 19, 2008
    #98
  19. rev_otis_mcnatt

    L Alpert Guest

    Here is the formula BMW uses for their oil change messaging:

    e = a(1 + t + r) = estimated mileage

    a= actual mileage

    t = 1 if engine temp below operating temp, else t = 0

    r = .5 if engine above 4500 RPM, else r = 0

    You should see that this simple estimating formula pretty much
    is sheer mileage-based for the average adult driver tooling around
    town or out in the country. One of its major flaws is it doesn't
    take into account engine run time (say, for a person who does
    a lot of sitting daily in city traffic commuting).

    ----

    Even without run time information, it is totals revs. If you factor
    someone living in an area such as the SF Bay, idling in traffic for
    say 30 minutes a day each way (a relatively low number for many!) at
    700 rpm would add >40K revs per day multiplied by the mileage.
     
    L Alpert, Oct 19, 2008
    #99
  20. rev_otis_mcnatt

    L Alpert Guest

    Here is the formula BMW uses for their oil change messaging:

    e = a(1 + t + r) = estimated mileage

    a= actual mileage

    t = 1 if engine temp below operating temp, else t = 0

    r = .5 if engine above 4500 RPM, else r = 0

    You should see that this simple estimating formula pretty much
    is sheer mileage-based for the average adult driver tooling around
    town or out in the country. One of its major flaws is it doesn't
    take into account engine run time (say, for a person who does
    a lot of sitting daily in city traffic commuting).

    ----

    Even without run time information, it is totals revs. If you factor
    someone living in an area such as the SF Bay, idling in traffic for
    say 30 minutes a day each way (a relatively low number for many!) at
    700 rpm would add >40K revs per day multiplied by the mileage.
     
    L Alpert, Oct 19, 2008
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