Questions about new Accord

Thus spake :

Cites?

 

Thus spake :

Cites?

 

Where is his oil analysis?

Never mind the tone in which the question was asked. You are merely
attempting to redirect attention away from the very valid question:
where is his oil analysis?

No oil analysis = no facts.

 

Where is his oil analysis?

Never mind the tone in which the question was asked. You are merely
attempting to redirect attention away from the very valid question:
where is his oil analysis?

No oil analysis = no facts.

 

I've seen signs in the dealer service department warning owners against
premature oil changes. But these were mainly to dissuade owners from
doing the first oil change at 1000 miles, before the break-in oil had
done its job. While there is no benefit to doing the oil change earlier
than the vehicle tells you, at 5000 miles it's safe to remove the
break-in oil.

Some people like to do recreational oil changing. As long as they leave
the break-in oil in the vehicle for 5000 miles this is okay.

 

I've seen signs in the dealer service department warning owners against
premature oil changes. But these were mainly to dissuade owners from
doing the first oil change at 1000 miles, before the break-in oil had
done its job. While there is no benefit to doing the oil change earlier
than the vehicle tells you, at 5000 miles it's safe to remove the
break-in oil.

Some people like to do recreational oil changing. As long as they leave
the break-in oil in the vehicle for 5000 miles this is okay.

 

Then again, there are dealerships like this one (not rare).
They talk about the MM, then go into *their* recommended
service intervals, which are much more frequent of course,
making their Maintenance Minder essentially useless:

http://www.rickwoodsonhonda.com/index.cfm?action=service#4

And after googling for 'break-in oil' for my own amusement,
I got the following bit of wisdom:

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2420

No wonder so many car owners are confused.

 

Then again, there are dealerships like this one (not rare).
They talk about the MM, then go into *their* recommended
service intervals, which are much more frequent of course,
making their Maintenance Minder essentially useless:

http://www.rickwoodsonhonda.com/index.cfm?action=service#4

And after googling for 'break-in oil' for my own amusement,
I got the following bit of wisdom:

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2420

No wonder so many car owners are confused.

 

Well, you could start by reading your Owner's Manual.

 

Well, you could start by reading your Owner's Manual.

 

eh? weren't you the guy having difficulties cracking open your own
owners manual???

 

eh? weren't you the guy having difficulties cracking open your own
owners manual???

 

you call that wisdom??? i call it a bunch of carp from four old farts
that evidently don't know what oil analysis is, and couldn't spell
"tribology" if you gave them a dictionary.

someone sure is! how is your oil analysis coming along?

 

you call that wisdom??? i call it a bunch of carp from four old farts
that evidently don't know what oil analysis is, and couldn't spell
"tribology" if you gave them a dictionary.

someone sure is! how is your oil analysis coming along?

 

1) How do you know this is so for modern BMWs?
2) What makes you sure Honda is using this formula as well?

 

1) How do you know this is so for modern BMWs?
2) What makes you sure Honda is using this formula as well?

 

That "formula" doesn't make any sense. Hint, it should be a summation
of discrete events or an integral.

 

That "formula" doesn't make any sense. Hint, it should be a summation
of discrete events or an integral.

 

http://www.bimmerzone.com/resettoolabout.htm

Still used as of at least 2007 models.
BMWs require these tools for resetting fault codes
and service lights. I still have mine.

I never said I was sure they did. One thing I've learned here
is that Honda posters seem to make stuff up when they feel
like it, which is often for some of the dimwits here.

But what makes you think Honda isn't using it? My guess, judging from
Honda's silly oil change-driven Maintenance Minder reminder system,
is that their estimations might be even more crude.

It still amazes me that they would come up with a system that
never will remind an owner of any required maintenance (tire
rotation, filters, all the rest) unless said owner lets the Oil
Life get down to 15%. A typical clueless owner who, say,
changes their oil ever 4k miles, and resets, will never get
any indication that other things need to be done. They
could drive the car for many tens of thousands of miles
and think things are just fine & dandy.

 

http://www.bimmerzone.com/resettoolabout.htm

Still used as of at least 2007 models.
BMWs require these tools for resetting fault codes
and service lights. I still have mine.

I never said I was sure they did. One thing I've learned here
is that Honda posters seem to make stuff up when they feel
like it, which is often for some of the dimwits here.

But what makes you think Honda isn't using it? My guess, judging from
Honda's silly oil change-driven Maintenance Minder reminder system,
is that their estimations might be even more crude.

It still amazes me that they would come up with a system that
never will remind an owner of any required maintenance (tire
rotation, filters, all the rest) unless said owner lets the Oil
Life get down to 15%. A typical clueless owner who, say,
changes their oil ever 4k miles, and resets, will never get
any indication that other things need to be done. They
could drive the car for many tens of thousands of miles
and think things are just fine & dandy.