Radar Detector Recomendation

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Butch Haynes, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. Butch Haynes

    Lee Florack Guest

    I contributed to a woman driving in the left lane exactly at the
    posted speed limit (55) get a ticket. A NY State trouper was right
    behind her. Of course lots of people were building up behind her
    because no one wanted to pass the trouper. I on the other hand,
    think left lane blockers to be scum. So, I sped up to 62 or so and
    passed the LLB and the trouper. As soon as I passed her, the
    trouper pulled her over and gave her a ticket. Did my heart good.

    BTW, there are very few places that actually care about reducing
    speeds. There are many ways to do that other than setting stupidly
    low speed limits (most roads are designed for much higher safe
    speeds) and then arbitrarily handing out tickets when the city or
    county coffers need a boost.
     
    Lee Florack, Feb 10, 2008
  2. Butch Haynes

    Jim Yanik Guest

    the Interstates were designed for 70 mph speeds,and that was with 1960's
    autos. Today's cars are much better and safer.

    Sadly,"speeding" has become a revenue source. Many states share the take
    with the police department writing the ticket. (a conflict of interest)
    Florida does.
     
    Jim Yanik, Feb 10, 2008
  3. Butch Haynes

    Dan C Guest

    How could you possibly know that he gave her a ticket? You were already
    in front, and moving further away. For all you know, she got a warning.
    This is, of course, assuming your "story" has any truth to it at all.
    Such as? Name a few of the "many" methods, wouldja?
     
    Dan C, Feb 10, 2008
  4. Butch Haynes

    Lee Florack Guest

    You won't believe it of course, but I didn't expect you would. The
    story IS true. In any case, the first point is that she was stopped
    because she was doing something wrong -- even though she was driving
    exactly at the speed limit. The second point is that although I
    passed the LLB and the trouper and was indeed driving over the speed
    limit, I wasn't stopped -- she was. This means that the trouper
    obviously felt that what she was doing was more dangerous than what
    I was doing. Thirdly, he stopped her because (in part) she was in
    the left lane and not keeping up with the flow of traffic -- even
    though that flow exceeded the posted limit.
    First one that comes to mind is a mandatory speed governor. If the
    governmental agencies can mandate all of the anti-pollution
    apparatus that we have on our cars today because they're serious
    about pollution, they certainly could add a speed governor -- if
    they were at all serious about keeping people from speeding. They
    aren't so they don't.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it'd be wrong to do but they could if
    they wanted to.
     
    Lee Florack, Feb 11, 2008
  5. Butch Haynes

    Dan C Guest

    Like I already said...., how do you know she got a ticket? You don't.
    OK, she got pulled over. That doesn't mean she got a ticket. She may
    have gotten a verbal warning. You absolutely do not *KNOW* that she got a
    ticket. Being stopped does not always result in a ticket being written.
    You didn't know that?
    Well, that's "one". I asked for a "few" of the "many". Let me ask you
    this: If such a thing was done, how long do you think it would take the
    mechanically-inclined to learn how to get around it?

    Try again, junior.
     
    Dan C, Feb 11, 2008
  6. Butch Haynes

    jim beam Guest

    why do you get so offended dan? people share their real life
    experiences, yet you just rage against it. why?
     
    jim beam, Feb 11, 2008
  7. Butch Haynes

    Dan C Guest

    "Offended"? "Rage"? No, I don't think so.

    What bothers me some is how some of you put so much effort into trying to
    "beat" the law. Why can't you just drive the fucking speed limit, and
    enjoy your day? What's the big fucking hurry all the time? Will driving
    80 instead of 70 really get you there that much faster? What will it save
    you on a short trip? 3 minutes? 7 minutes? Why bother?

    Why do you feel the need to break the law at every opportunity? Can you
    answer that?
     
    Dan C, Feb 11, 2008
  8. Butch Haynes

    jim beam Guest

    excuse me, but when a guy gets bent over something with which he's not
    involved and from which he has had no disadvantage, he's clearly angry
    and offended about something. and that "something" is nothing to do
    with speed limit enforcement.

    it's internal dan. explore with professional help if necessary. don't
    project onto strangers.
     
    jim beam, Feb 11, 2008
  9. Butch Haynes

    Jim Yanik Guest

    I can see,after cars get mandatory speed limit sign interrogators(that read
    the programmed SL from the sign,tied into the cars electronics),some hacker
    spoofing the SL signal and slowing everybody down to 10 mph on the
    expressway at rush hour,and having a lot of yuks over it.
     
    Jim Yanik, Feb 11, 2008
  10. Butch Haynes

    Dan C Guest

    That's what I thought you'd do. Attack me, instead of answering the
    reasonable questions that I asked above.

    Why don't you answer the questions? Can you do that?
     
    Dan C, Feb 11, 2008
  11. Butch Haynes

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Not "beating it",just ignoring it,and driving the speed we feel safe and
    comfortable at.
    No "rage" either,until some clueless,lame idiots cannot keep correct lane
    discipline(STKR,KRETP,proper lane changes),causing *truly unsafe* traffic
    conditions.

    Because we are not mindless automatons.
    We actually LIKE driving,and using our brains while driving.
    No zombie driving for us.

    Who says "speeding" is being in a "hurry"?

    It's usually safer.(than travelling in a big bunch-up)

    Because that particular law is irrelevant to actual road and traffic
    conditions.(as demonstrated by the pre-55 NMSL 75 mph limits on many
    highways,set for *1960's autos*.Today's cars are much better,much safer.
    One day,75 was safe,next day;55 was the limit.(and over 50% of drivers
    violated it,probably closer to 80%)
     
    Jim Yanik, Feb 11, 2008
  12. Butch Haynes

    jim beam Guest

    i'm not attacking you!!! you may not like being confronted with
    reality, but it's not an attack!


    sorry, not going to play a game that feeds your dysfunction. get help.
     
    jim beam, Feb 11, 2008
  13. Butch Haynes

    Dan C Guest

    LOL. Yeah. OK, so you can't debate the issue using factual information,
    and when asked to answer relevant questions, you write the above.

    Got it. I'd say the "dysfunction" is yours, and I've wasted enough time
    with you. Go play in traffic (pun intended).
     
    Dan C, Feb 11, 2008
  14. Butch Haynes

    Dan C Guest

    Well, that right there says a lot about your character.

    You're as clueless as the other moron.
     
    Dan C, Feb 11, 2008
  15. Butch Haynes

    DJ NoMore Guest

    But the Blinder system works well against LIDAR! I rode with a buddy
    who has a radar detector and a Blinder system installed in his vehicle
    and the Blinder went nuts while his radar/laser detector didn't even
    show that he was being clocked by a motorcycle cop.
     
    DJ NoMore, Feb 11, 2008
  16. Butch Haynes

    Lee Florack Guest

    I see you ignored everything else I wrote.
    Junior? I'm pretty sure you'd be surprised.

    Anyway, you didn't ask if I'd like it (I don't). You didn't ask if
    it's work for everybody (it won't). What we have now (cops
    enforcing arbitrary speed limits when they feel like it) doesn't
    slow people down either. When the vast majority of drivers -- who
    are otherwise law-abiding citizens -- routinely exceed the posted
    limits there's something wrong with the existing laws and their
    method of enforcement.
     
    Lee Florack, Feb 12, 2008
  17. Butch Haynes

    Lee Florack Guest

    Aren't you just a pleasant guy?
     
    Lee Florack, Feb 12, 2008
  18. Butch Haynes

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Lee,I advise using the killfile.
     
    Jim Yanik, Feb 12, 2008
  19. Butch Haynes

    Joe Guest

    Dan's one of those highly consistent guys... He's consistently
    disliked in every group that he bothers...
     
    Joe, Feb 12, 2008
  20. At the very real risk of enraging "potty mouth Dan", I would ask. "How do
    you know she wasn't ticketed?"...You don't. You weren't there either. Ergo,
    The OPs story is no less valid than your criticism thereof... FWIW - there
    are several stretches of road in Alaska, southeast out of Anchorage along
    Turnagin Arm, where it is illegal to have more than five (5) vehicles backed
    up behind you. Regardless of your speed, you might be cited for "impeding
    the flow of traffic"... As with any traffic law or regulation, the
    enforcement depends a great deal upon the given situation at the time and
    whether or not the officer got any the night before.....Which brings me to
    another point about driving too slowly. California Traffic Code states that
    you may be ticketed for impeding the normal flow of traffic.
    This has been done already with some commercial vehicles. Many OTR buses and
    trucks are equipped with "rev limiters" which de facto limit your speed.
    However, these limiters have caused some problems and are going out of
    general use. They have been replaced by GPS systems which let the company
    dispatcher know at what speed the vehicle is travelling. Of course, most of
    you here already know that.

    Last item - Does everyone remember why the nationwide speed limit of 55mph
    was put into effect? Not for safety but rather it was an energy conservation
    strategy.
    ///snipped///
     
    Dave and Trudy, Feb 12, 2008
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