Rear disc brake swap

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Sean, Jan 28, 2005.

  1. Sean

    Sean Guest

    Does anybody have any information on how to swap rear drum brakes with disc
    brakes for 91 civic hb?
    Cons/pros?
     
    Sean, Jan 28, 2005
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  2. Sean

    TeGGer® Guest


    Some Civics came with rear discs (EX?)

    You'd need the parking brake cables, proportioning valve, discs, backing
    plates, mount brackets, calipers, new flex lines, etc., and maybe even the
    trailing arms and wheel bearings

    I would not advise the swap. You will get no better braking and a LOT more
    maintenance issues. Stick with drums. They don't look as cool in between
    the spokes of your $400 wheels, but they are better than discs in practice.
     
    TeGGer®, Jan 28, 2005
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  3. Sean

    John Ings Guest

    Neither would I. That proportioning valve in itself is a tricky
    business. You can't just casually fit bigger, meaner brakes into the
    back of a vehicle. If you do the rear wheels may lock right up while
    the fronts are still only braking slightly. This can result in the car
    swapping ends unexpectedly. Even with a proportioning valve installed
    to prevent this, it might not be set right for a vehicle it wasn't
    designed for.
     
    John Ings, Jan 28, 2005
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  4. Sean

    Mista Bone Guest

    You won't see any better braking, only a "bling bling" factor.

    You'll need master cylinder, prop. valve, ebrake cables, trailing arms
    complete to hub assembly, and different brake lines.

    Also figure on cutting out EACH bolt on the back.

    In short, not worth the effort.
     
    Mista Bone, Jan 29, 2005
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  5. Sean

    jim beam Guest

    you need the right proportioning valve, hoses, backing plates/hub
    assemblies, hand brake cables and of course, disks & calipers. you also
    need a t50 torx driver. use a good quality one - NOT lisle. lisle make
    good tools for many applications, but their torx drivers are grossly
    inferior. i rounded off two before i finally figured out that it was
    the tool, not the backing plate bolt.

    a lot of people change out the whole trailing arm assemblies, but that's
    not essential, particularly if your trailing arm bushes are in good
    condition & the donor vehicle's aren't. leaving your old trailing arms
    in place also means you don't have to do a new rear end alignment.

    if you're going to do this, you may as well go for the big disks on the
    front as well, 10.25" vs 9.5" standard, and if you do that, you'll need
    bigger calipers, the bigger diameter master cylinder & the bigger vacuum
    booster. the steering knuckles are not necessary unless you're worried
    about the splash plate being slightly too small. unless your climate is
    absolutely abysmal, i really can't see it making any more difference
    than having spoked alloy wheels vs steelies.

    here's what i've worked out on proportioning valves. if anyone else
    knows different, please post. there's a number stamped into the one of
    the two main halves near where they're joined. if your original
    proportioning valve reads something like "3025" and you get rear disks
    from a vehicle reading "4040" [like an integra] and you /don't/ change
    the front disks, you need a "3040" proportioning valve [from an 88
    accord ex/s]. if you do use the bigger front disks, you need the 4040.

    master cylinders are best changed complete with the vacuum booster as
    the bolt-on patterns are different depending on model/year. just so
    long as the brake lines align. the closest fit for my 89 civic, without
    doing any re-plumbing, is the 88 accord again. it has a 15/16" piston
    diameter. i'd prefer a 1" cylinder from a del sol or an integra, but
    that requires a different brake line fitting. not impossible, but it's
    not as close to being direct bolt-on as the rest of the conversion.

    some day, i'll get around to sending "how-to" pics to tegger for hosting.
     
    jim beam, Jan 29, 2005
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  6. Sean

    jim beam Guest

    hondas already have proportioning valves, and they're not very tricky -
    you just need to pick the right one. they're a direct bolt-on swap.
     
    jim beam, Jan 29, 2005
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  7. Sean

    TeGGer® Guest

    <snip excellent post>


    This is good information, thanks.


    That would be great. The more contributions the better.
     
    TeGGer®, Jan 29, 2005
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  8. Sean

    John Ings Guest

    And how do you pick the right one for a vehicle that had different
    rear brakes originally?
     
    John Ings, Jan 29, 2005
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  9. Sean

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    Well, if it were a 91 CRX or an 89 accord it would be easy to pick the right
    parts. Those cars both had a model with rear disc.
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Jan 29, 2005
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  10. Sean

    TeGGer® Guest


    One off an EX would work.
     
    TeGGer®, Jan 29, 2005
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  11. Sean

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    But the 1991 EX civic had drums in the back.
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Jan 29, 2005
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  12. Sean

    TeGGer® Guest



    An Si then? Poor memory happening here... :(
     
    TeGGer®, Jan 29, 2005
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  13. Sean

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    No, that's the problem, I think as far as civic like vehicles from that
    generation, only the CRX Si had disc. I don't know how easy it would be to
    swap over to a civic.
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Jan 30, 2005
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