[QUOTE] Yeah, you really have to check them over after a rear-ender. My wife got it in her 92 Seville. The bumper was shoved forward on one side and some other damage. I went to the Caddy dealer to pick it up after it was supposededly fixed. The bumper was replaced and looked fine. I got down on the ground and looked underneath. There was a small shock absorber on each side that went to the bumper. The one on the impact side had been damaged and compressed.. Did they replace it? Hell no, just shoved a bunch of shims behind it and rebolted it. I was pissed, raised hell and got it fixed right. Talk about shade tree mechanics, at a Caddy Dealership, no less. Really tightened my Van Allen belt !- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -[/QUOTE] years ago, took my civic in to a local body shop in a big bucks neighborhood which advertised itself as specializing in mercedes, bmw, honda, acura, figured they would do a decent job on the front end i stupidly mangled. I impressed upon him i wanted it done right, even if it cost, not just patched together to look good for quick sale like some folks do. last winter, i skid into a dinky little yard sign just stuck into the dirt, no concrete or anything. it keels right over, of course, minimal impact, but the front bumper is split apart. Mr. classy body shop had neglected to replace the styrofoam under the bumper cover, and without the support the cover had stretched/ripped under the relatively gentle stress. i'm convinced it would have survived otherwise. bottom line, the guy's little cheat saved him probably and cost me 0.