Rear spoilers and safety?

LOL!

Wow...this idiot telling someone else the "look stupid"?

LOL! LOL!

Ok Mikey...then please show us the proof that these "small tail wings" don't
have any effect until "150 MPH".

Please...we are waiting...


--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

 

Makes no difference. Someone not paying attention to brake lights in front
of them will still rear end you. The only thing is that the spoiler may
block a bit of rear vision.

 

There are two uses for a spoiler. They can add downforce to the rear of
your car or they can simply smooth the airflow to give you less drag. Porshe
spoiler are the type that add downforce. The spoilers on most cars are the
type that smooth the airflow for lower drag numbers. So while they don't
provide downforce, they are functional.

 

The only difference is that one is upside down. The horizontal
stabilizer on an airplane produces negative lift in neutral trim.
Again, it doesn't have to be moving at 150 mph to do so.

Again, I am not claiming that wings on production cars do anything,
merely pointing out that you are (surprise) full of shit.

 

Now THAT is funny. I'll bet there is one Italian inventor that
would be laughing his head off, if he were still alive.


mike hunt

 

You are a riot, keep posting, the levity is appreciated.


mike hunt

 

Show me your wind tunnel results.

 

you dont need to be doing 150mph to generate downforce with the spoiler, how
veer this is probaly only when you will need it, i dont know. a lot of cars
have spoilers nowadays, cosmetic a lot of them and not needed. i doubt a
standard front engine civic with ever encounter a need for the ORGINAL
INTENDED use of its spoiler.

just what i think

 

I get paid to teach schools, so I have no intention of offering
to teaching one in a NG, but think about this; Do you think the
air moving over a rear spoiler is what actually causes the down
force on the rear of the vehicle? Why it it called a spoiler?
What is it intended to spoil? What is the result of that spoiled
air flow? Do some research and after you discover the answers to
those questions you will understand why it is generally only
BENEFICIAL at speeds above 150.


mike hunt

 

There are 2 concepts for spoilers. When mounted in the air stream, they operate in
the wing mode. This generate lift and drags. This concept is exploited in cars
like Touring, CART and Formula 1, to gain major rear traction and stability.

When spoilers are mounted below and near the boundary of the air stream, they are
merely deflectors. They reduces lift and drag. This concept is exploited in cars
made by Lexus, BMW and others, to increase minor rear traction and stability.

However, if there is a major flaw in the design or the mounting, a spoiler could
actually spoil.

Btw, a properly designed spoiler would spoil turbulent flow. That's why we call
them spoilers.

 

It serves as little function as pinstripping. It's only function is "too look
cool."

It doesn't really detract from safety; it it were large enough to function
then it might be a danger to a bicycler impaling himself on it like the old
caddy fishtail fins did.

 

Can't think of any great Italian aviation pioneers - most were French
or American.

If you have a specific argument against what I have said, then make
it. I stand 100% behind the statement below and I have designed,
built and flown more than a few flying machines in my life. A lot of
them would literally smoke your Rustang.

 

Where the "150 MPH" explanation Mikey?

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

 

Tell us Mikey...why is that funny?

And why would he be laughing at that explanation Mikey? Please tell us.

BTW, where's the "150 MPH" explanation?

 

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!

What do you teach the schools to do Mikey?!

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I get paid as a teacher, so I have no intention of offering teaching to an
idiot who rides the short bus, however, I will inform you that your
stuttering is starting to show in your writings, and your question is not in
proper format.

See above.

Oh I see...now, all of a sudden, it "...generally only beneficial..." at
speeds above 150.

Changing you story, huh? Squirming again Mikey?

You are TOOOO funny to watch man...

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

 

Apparently you know little of aviation as well. Any one involved
in aviation knows that without the work of that
Italian gentleman, there would be no aviation. LOL


mike hunt

 

It is obvious that Gordon has more aviation experience and credentials than
you. In fact, given this thread, you have proven you know very little about
aviation and aerodynamics.

And if you are refereeing to the Italian, Leonardo da Vinci, you again show
your ignorance on the matter. da Vinci actually did little with aviation,
other than some basic theories, sketches, and models (all of which failed).
While his aviation concept is well known, he had little to no impact on
human flight and modern aviation. He died in 1519 (I think)...almost 400
years before any successful human flight. Don't you think that if he had had
that great of impact on aviation, it wouldn't have taken so long after his
death to accomplish it?

For you to make such a statement "Any one involved in aviation knows that
without the work of that Italian gentleman, there would be no aviation."
only proves once again....you have no idea what you are talking about, and
talk out you ass.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

 

Get real, it was not Leonardo da Vinci. Did you daddy do
you home work when you were in school? I'm not going to do your
research. After you do some research and discover who,
get back to us.


mike hunt

 

[snip]

[snip]

I don't understand the question...it is not in proper syntax.

get back to me, when you can master simple english sentence structure.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

 

You could try contacting any of the teams shown here:
http://www.btccworld.com/teams/ and if you're particularly interested in
Hondas, Arena Motorosport though I expect the info is secret. Now they
*are* able to go a little faster than we are usually allowed to drive on
the road but I see no harm in making a streetcar which has some racing
inspired appendages.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??