Repeatedly Running On A Low Tank?

From a dead stop. You could feel the difference. Any lag that had been
there before was gone. I was surprised. I mean, obviously, with a 1.5
liter "F" engine I wasn't expecting a fire-breathing monster, but starts
from a dead stop were quicker on the uptake.

It also had a small but noticeable effect on passing at speed, >50-60 MPH.

 

It could also be that you have your head up your ass and haven't the first
clue of what you're talking about.

Come back when you get some real experience, along with data. I kept a log
in the car of fuel economy, and it clearly went up after changing the
filter and the intake.

You don't believe it, fine. Why don't you go try one and get back to us
with your findings?

Until then, feel free to STFU...

 

I never bullshit, Jackass. If I say I did something and it did this, then
it did.

Um, book in the glove box? Increase from 38 MPG to 44 MPG? What part
aren't you quite getting here?

Do you have any real world experience doing anything at all, or are you
just Mr Know-It-All?

 

Not really.

 

This was because people were going 10-12,000 miles between changes and
sludging their engines.

I was there when the campaign was on.

 

the way you keep biting contradicts that.

 

Well I can't explain it. I also can't see how changing the filter should
have affected the fuel economy by a measurable amount. Did you reset the PCM
when you installed the filter? I suppose it is possible that oil from the
filter coated the MAF and screwed up the information provided by the MAF to
the PCM, but even in this case the PCM should have been able to cmpensate
and return the A/F to the correct value (and if it couldn't, it should turn
on the CEL). Another possible explanation is that you actually decreased the
performance of the engine, limiting your ability to burn gas (I think it is
possible you are confusing increases noise with increased performance). A
properly functioning PCM should easily be able to compensate for minor
changes in an air filter. You didn't change tires around the same time you
changed the filter by any chance? Or maybe the fuel formulation in your area
changed? I just can't come up with a rational explanation for a 10% increase
in fuel economy related to just changing the air filter. If you are not at
WOT, the air filter isn't a significant source of inlet restriction unless
it is practically plugged up and in this case, you'd have bigger problems.

Ed

 

1. you do.

2. you're wrong.

the bit where you're claiming the impossible.

nope - we don't have cars on planet bulldetector. i just take your
effluent and fling it back at you. real simple to stop if you don't
like it though - if you don't produce it, it won't come back at you.

 

whoops, busted - no cars here on planet bulldetector. but you're giving
me /so/ much ammo, even i can hit you from here in the dark smelly
wastes of interstellar space.

 

Don't you think that is unusual, assuming that changing the air filter was
the readon for a large increase in fuel economy? If reducing the air filter
restriction could increase fuel economy by 10%, don't you think you should
see the fuel economy decrease as the filter accumulates dirt and the filter
restriction increases? I know you said your filter was not a K&N, but I
assume it is similar. K&Ns own data shows a substantial increase in the
filter restricition as it accumulates dirt. K&N shows a dirty K&N filter to
be more restricitive than a clean paper filter. It seems to me you can't get
a 10% increase in fuel economy by changing to a less restricitive filter and
not also get a measurable decrease in fuel economy as that filter loads up
with dirt.

Ed

 

so, given that efi controls the engine management, and the throttle is a
much more significant restriction on air intake than any but the most
seriously clogged filter, how exactly can that be happening? oh, and
you need to account for the air being hotter and therefore less dense
[!] inside the engine compartment where this new air intake of your
resides. thanks.

 

rubbish. tank to tank, fuel economy on any car varies much more widely
than that.

 

b.s.

 

He's an asshole, what an asshole!

He's the world's biggest asshole!

Yeah, we can tell...

 

He's an asshole, what an asshole!

He's the world's biggest asshole!

And you prove it daily.

 

I never let it accumulate dirt. I cleaned it by vacuuming it and also
cleaned and re-oiled it every other oil change. I was worried about dirt
getting into the engine, too, so I doubled the maintenance.

In the winter the mileage would fall off to about 40, but that was it.

 

Easy, it did. You're in the Honda group, right? Don't you ever talk to any
of the guys that modify their Hondas? They're all over the place.

Oh, forget it. You're a keyboard Know-It-All, and don't actually talk to
real people.

 

I'm beginning to think you don't even know what a car is...

Why don't you actually go *DO* something and then let us know how it works
for you?

 

hmmm, bullshit and misquotes. and you wonder why people don't take you
seriously!

 

I believe it. That's why you're such a moron.