Revitalized Malibu Takes on Accord and Camry

Nate, I wasn't dissing sports cars for others--when I was younger I had some
sportier vehicles such as a 74 Dodge Challenger Rallye and a 65 Plymouth
Barracuda. But, that was then, this is now. Now, I like a smoother ride,
less road noise etc etc. I drool at vehicles like the Aston Martin line, for
example.

 

Not really. From what I have seen of your post's, you are actually just a
cheap prick.

 

It wouldn't matter if you paid in gold. A 17 year old Honda is true
garbage.

 

Only because the warranty lasts for 3..

 

Hi JOAT - true, they are notable, but for all but the most eccentric, they
aren't cars that one would one would be driving at 17 years of age. Still
goes back to the matter of them being a 17 year old car, regardless of what
notable contribution they may have made to the annals of automotive history.

 

And what does that have to do with the discussion? It must impress you
greatly, for you to capitalize the word cash. Is it that you somehow feel
unique in paying cash for things?

 

Now we've gotten to where you really live. You're impressed with yourself,
and quickly succumb to childish postures when others around you aren't
equally impressed. Carry on - you've become quite amusing.

 

And you sir, lack the ability to read and comprehend. Please quote where I
ever advocated debt. Correct - you cannot.

 

Such a shame that you prove yourself to be so ignorant in this group. You
do realize don't you, that you are posting to a group of people who have
consistently proven the ability of GM products to last 200,000 miles easily,
without undue levels of maintenance. That's 3 times the mileage you've
accrued on your Camry while you keep it stowed in the garage. That means
they actually got to use their vehicles, rather than keep them parked for
most of their 10 year life (with plans to keep it parked for 7 more
years...). On top of that - this is a group of people who are not so
blinded by any particular brand loyalty, that they can admit the mistakes
and shortcomings of GM.

 

The "antique" or "Classic" appelation is beside the point.

To the purists, anything post-war is considered "modern". No post-war car
is "antique" or "Classic".

You're absolutely right that a 17 year-old Honda or Toyota is "just an old
car". So were Model A's and '57 Chevrolets at one time too. All cars go
through the "just an old car" phase before a few of them eventually get
famous and valuable.

 

Hey, that wasn't nice! You just hurt my 18 year-old Integra's feelings!

 

Frugality enabled me to retire from full time work at 42 and to accumulate
near a million bucks in assets. Maybe YOU want to spend like a crack monkey.
Enjoy having to work until you are 90.

 

Are you illiterate or just plain stupid? I garage the Camry when I am not
driving it unlike some idiots who leave their vehicles parked on the street
or exposed on open driveways.

 

Agreed, yes, a 17 year old HONDA is pure garbage. My TEN year old vehicle is
a CAMRY.

 

AH, nothing personal, Tegger.

 

At 10 years old and only approximately 80,000 miles on it, the car sits in
the garage more than it gets driven. Do the math - that comes out to...
8,000 miles per year. Hardly something to brag about. Illiterate? Stupid?
No. Rather, I am quite capable of seeing idiots like you for what they are.

 

Quite true - but my point was simply a response to a red herring interjected
into the conversation which introduced the terms and concepts of antiques
and classics.

 

You are completely incapable of conversation. Just what in the hell gives
you any reason to believe or even suspect that 80Knight lacks any form of
frugality? You are just to ate up with yourself. Good thing though,
because I doubt others are equally impressed with you.

 

Agreed. While not the most economical, I buy new and tend to keep for 12-15
years. I had to explain to my wife why buying cash was more economical than
leasing. As in short order I owned it and would not be back in a few years
to renew the lease with another, and yet another downpayment, and yet
another... and no getting dinged for scratches and mileage. Once a lease is
over, you walk away with nothing but having to do it all over again into
perpetuity.

Even if you have to take a loan, say $600 to own for 3 years sounds better
than $450 lease for 15 years. And 15 years also has an infation component,
on the 15th year they will be paying $700 while I ride mortgage free.

Finance manages love these lease types. It is like any other debt, pay me
now or pay even more over time but monthly payments seem less on the myopic
one month view. Sucker play.