Revitalized Malibu Takes on Accord and Camry

No, he values economic freedom more than a shinny new car, wise man
actually.

Who suffers more when laid off? The person who has their house and car paid
for with cash on the self, or the over drawn idiot with a mortgage on the
car, home and credit card bouncing?

It even makes for a great family life. Seriously. I have been married for
19 years, and never once argued about the number one cause of divorce,
money. Makes one truly rich.... a great home life and we have everything we
need.

So when I go to work, I see people sweat out getting paid, I spend my
energies being better. My economic freedoms allow me the choices... as I am
not a slave to debt. Boss knows it too, I always get better raises and
nicer projects as he knows I am there for the challenges and fun.

Go ahead, be a debt slave, someone has to support the bankers new suit.

 

Sharx35, be easy on him. Far too many like him have never been tought
otherwise. They know not economic freedom as they were just a few points
less on self dicipline and IQ, they pay an awful price. Plus, they make
banking cheap for us, as banks could not buy coffee for what I pay them.
They pay ME. They should teach personal economics in high school. Rig it
to real life, banks and governments always win unless you get smart about
it.

But I started in debt with zero, just managed it and not it managing me.
Got it paid off, new car or $10,000 off the mortgage goes a long way to
achiving the financial liberty we enjoy.

I tried retirement at 51 for 3 months, it sucked, I was bored. Decided to
go back to work, new job has low hours, lots of time off. Just wish we
could do the 4 day work week every week.... maybe my next job. But taking
every Friday off in the summer. I made sure of that before I started. And
maybe do Costa Rica in December.

 

17 year old inexpensive car. Think of the money he saved!!!

 

Many here value economic freedom and live their lives to provide that. He
has thrown that out as a red herring in attempt to distract from the
original conversation.

Seriously - I have been married for over 27 years, successfully raised 4
kids, enjoy life, live in a mortgage free home of our chosing, and continue
to contribute to the society I live in. What does any of that have to do
with driving a 17 year old car?

Why do people like you make statements like this? You know absolutely
nothing about 80 Knight's life - whether he is enslaved to a mountain of
debt, whether he inherited $10M from a rich uncle, or whether he is modestly
secure for the rest of his life. He has indicated nothing to suggest either
of those, yet you comment "Go ahead, be a debt slave, someone has to support
the bankers new suit.". That is the very same red herring type of comment
made by the OP, and all that type of comment serves to do is indicate you
are at a loss to deal with the conversation/point at hand.

You and I don't agree on every aspect of the whole GM conversation that has
taken place over the past several weeks, and we don't disagree on every
aspect. I've thought that some of your ideas were over the top - perhaps
thrown out there to simple raise a little hell, but I've also found some of
your thoughts to represent an effort at genuine dialog and debate. This
kind of statement does not serve the latter well.

 

A 15 year old Toyota or Honda is just getting broken in. Most price
comparisons of Toyotas and Hondas versus Fords and Chevys leave out one
key factor in the equation, and that's that you'll need two of the Fords
or Chevys to last as long as one of the Toyotas or Hondas.

 

Really bad bait. That bait has long passed its expiration date. Not to
mention that it's been used so many times, all the game fish are wise to it.

 

Peace be with you!

 

Red Herring def. When used by an asshole, it means that the OP has scored a
debating point.

 

Have a better day!

 

GM should have been fed to the sharks.

 

Well, I am not fully retired. I work like a dog during tax season as an
income tax consultant. It's a bit slacker for the other 10 months. Well, a
LOT slacker.

 

Have a great day!

 

Ahhhh, I see you reveal yourself for what you are... Uneducated,
intolerant and just a general doofus!

Congratulations!

JT

 

Well, we're talkin' 25 to 26 years of age here. And, the great thing is
that they are "old school," I.E., no computer, no "check engine" light
and even lack a PCV valve. Just right for an old fart like me to
maintain and repair which really doesn't happen very often.

Sometimes the latest and greatest ain't really so...

JT

 

Still lots of late 1980's to early 1990's Accords and Camrys on the
road, still fetching 2-4K on the used market. You have to chuckle when
you see the ads from Ford and GM trying to compare initial purchase
prices of new vehicles, i.e. the Malibu, since they are forced to leave
longevity out of the equation. It's not just having to purchase 2x the
number of vehicles for the same time period, it's the resale value if
you do choose to sell after only 8-10 years.

 

You're onto something here.

I often have people refer to my old, (1955 & 1956), Studebakers as
"Classics" which is just not so.

In fact, the Classic era covers the period from about 1927 to about 1948
and only unique cars (styling and engineering) are considered "full
classics." This is high brow shit and when I bought a 1931 Studebaker
President Q4 coupe about ten years ago I started to practice holdin' up
my end pinkies when sippin' high tea.

There's nuthin' like invoking the term "full classic" to start all kinds
of flame wars. Some folks just like denying the truth even though is
has snob appeal.

Needless to say, I never got around to restoring the car and sold it
about three years ago. Now, I'm content with playin' around with the two
"modern" Studebakers and a small flock of Gen II Honda Civics...

JT

 

Fear not as by doing so, you have defeated the thinking of them thar'
PHd economists who calculate how often fools trade in their current ride
only to become a slave to the finance company.

Not many people have their priorities straight these days...

JT

 

Suck dick, cumwad. I don't go to a Toyota newsgroup to read about ricer junk
aka Honda products.

 

You ARE an old fart?? Could a fooled me. Figured as much because of your
grumpiness!! ROFL.

 

What you say makes sense--too made some are too dense to understand your
comments.