Revitalized Malibu Takes on Accord and Camry

But that is what I have been saying in many of my posts!! And you complained
to me.

 

You do realize that he's probably posting from r.a.m.honda, yes? Or are
you really that refreshingly clue-free?

nate

 

Actually I think that most people do understand the whole longevity
versus initial purchase price issue, but they either don't care about
that aspect of ownership, or they don't want to admit that their
long-held beliefs have been debunked.

 

or they don't believe that *any* car will last significantly longer than
the warranty... I used to believe it was true but even brands I used to
know and trust (VW, BMW, etc.) have "turned Japanese" and over-contented
their vehicles to the point that they're all one big unrepairable mass
of electronics.

nate

 

Lol You know, not everyone feels the need to brag about how much money they
make, or have. And do you know what the funny part is? Most who do, don't
actually have any...

 

You still can't polish a turd.

 

You have a long way to go to even score a starting point. To date, you've
not been able to maintain any form of consistency in this conversation, have
been literally thrashed at every turn, and have proven your capability to
conduct a civil conversation by your repeated use of personal insults. You
really are funny to watch. Assholes are those people who prove you to be
the idiot that you are.

 

Oh look - I have a leg humper. Down boy - down.

 

You're just winning friends all over the place aren't you? Good thing
you're rich, retired, and own that 10 year old piece of junk that you plan
on keeping for another 7 years.

 

I don't give a **** where this is cross-posted too--YOU can **** off back to
the DNA cesspool, too, from whence you came.

 

I find this is funny. 21.4 - 26.3mpg only on your Accord V6?

Yesterday I race with one of these cars in terms of power there is no
match. In Fuel efficiency there is no match neither.

Our improved Mercedes-Benz C280 or E320 can beat yours. I would love to
prove this again in front of a news editor or a media person. Please let
me know when you're ready to see something you've never seen before.

 

Who gives a **** about German junk in a Toyota newsgroup?

 

They may be informally referred to as "classics", with a lower-case "c".
But that would be purely a subjective opinion.

And fraught with controversy even within the CCCA, which homologates
vehicles as "Classics".

There are advocates for acceptance of certain post-war vehicles as "full
Classics", although CCCA officials have so far resisted them. What, do
they think that there is not one single car made after 1948 that is
unique or significant in any way?

To properly fit the mold of the true "Classic" owner, you need to start
sneering at owners of aging "modern" cars, especially Japanese cars.

I stick with my '91 only because I don't WANT anything newer. I don't
WANT air bags, OBD-II, an all-electrical interior, even more plastic
than I've already got, etc. If my previous older cars hadn't all rotted
out from under me, I'd probably still have one of them.

 

.....exclaimed he, without a single clip. But anyway, "from whence" is
incorrect..."whence" already includes the "from".

 

I don't think that anyone's dumb enough to believe that. Also realize
that many vehicles have very long power train warranties these days,
especially certified used vehicles.

 

Are all Toyota owners really "challenged," or have we found ourselves an
outlier?

nate

 

Oh? That is open to debate and I quote:

Q] From Marty Robinson: Last week you quoted Sir Christopher Wren as
referring to 'The Ailes, from whence arise Bows or Flying Buttresses to the
Walls of the Navis.' I'm sorry to learn that Sir Christopher used the
redundancy from whence.

[A] This is another of those grammatical shibboleths, like avoiding a plural
verb with none or not splitting one's infinitives, that are open to
linguistic debate, to put it mildly. The argument against this form is that
whence already includes the idea of coming from some place, so that
including from makes it tautological.

The debate is complicated by the fact that whence is not that common a word
these days, being rather literary; I had trouble finding a modern example
that wasn't prefixed by from. This is from Newsday of 11 November 2004: "He
is a legendary figure in his native England, whence I have just returned."
That's a good example of the "proper" use.

Objectors to from whence have support in logic, but logic doesn't feature
much in English constructions, especially idioms, which is how one perhaps
should regard the phrase these days. One newspaper archive I consulted,
hardly comprehensive, contained more than 250 cases of from whence just in
2004. It succeeds because it is informal and colloquial compared with whence
used alone, a construction that is unusual enough to force readers to stop
and work out the meaning.

And even a brief look at historical sources shows that from whence has been
common since the thirteenth century. It has been used by Shakespeare, Defoe
(in the opening of Robinson Crusoe: "He got a good estate by merchandise,
and leaving off his trade, lived afterwards at York; from whence he had
married my mother"), Smollett, Dickens (in A Christmas Carol: "He began to
think that the source and secret of this ghostly light might be in the
adjoining room, from whence, on further tracing it, it seemed to shine"),
Dryden, Gibbon, Twain (in Innocents Abroad: "He traveled all around, till at
last he came to the place from whence he started"), and Trollope, and it
appears 27 times in the King James Bible (including Psalm 121: "I will lift
up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help").

Though Dr Johnson objected to it in his Dictionary of 1755, calling it "A
vicious mode of speech" (he meant it was reprehensible, not depraved or
savage), most objections to it are no earlier than the twentieth century.
One reason may be that its critics are unaware of its long pedigree.

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BTW, "troglodyte" is a better alias than "cavedweller".

 

The REST of what became the human race crawled out of the slime--nate's
forebears remained.

 

My neighbor who likes to fiddle with old (pre 1963) cars occasionally
has to work on his mother's late 1980ish Oldsmobile with a Quad Four
engine. Car only has about 80K on the odometer yet it runs like shit
and is next to impossible to diagnose or repair. Freakin' thing has been
laid up for months!

Everything is in the way of everything else. Industrial engineering at
GM??? Not as far as I can see...

<sigh>

JT

 

Heh heh... Clue free is rampant these day!

BTW, Howz JP doing???

JT