Running engine's effect on garage opener

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by R. P., Jan 19, 2004.

  1. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    I noticed lately that the effective range of my garage door opener
    is greatly reduced when the engine is running vis-a-vis when it is not.
    This was not always the case and wonder if it may have something to do
    with some kind of electrical shielding removed or disconnected during
    one of the regular maintenace visits at my Honda dealer. The car is a
    '94 Accord LX model that otherwise runs just fine.
    The only reason I can imagine for this behavior is that somehow the
    electro-magnetic field around the running engine is interfering with the
    garage door opener's RF signal but I'd like to hear from anybody
    knowledgeable on this subject. I have no idea what exactly a service
    technician could have done to cause this effect.

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jan 19, 2004
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  2. Do you get buzz or pops on the AM radio? If so, an ignition wire could
    have a broken conductor.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Jan 19, 2004
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  3. R. P.

    frank roarty Guest

    Rudy, newer remote controls are more sensitive to rf interference
    because they are now transceivers instead of just transmitters. The
    antenna and environment around the operator itself is essentially
    unchanged but now the itty bitty antenna in the remote must also be a
    receiver to negotiate an offset for rolling code security. this little
    antenna is more susceptible to shielding, gain fluctuation and noise.
    Your ignition wires are likely starting to break down and having their
    effect on a marginal transmission. Try a new battery, also try
    relocating the remote - remember that rf energy falls off at the
    square of the distance so what you might consider a negligible 6 inch
    offset in location appears to the receiver like 3 feet.
     
    frank roarty, Jan 19, 2004
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  4. R. P.

    Doordoc Guest

    Is the transmitter one that is built into the visor or roof console or
    is it a standard garage door opener transmitter that is normally hung
    on the visor w/ a clip? If it is built-in I would guess that something
    like a short is drawing off the transmitter power when the car is
    running. If it is a stand alone transmitter the transmitter battery
    could be weak (do not use alkaline batteries) or the transmitter could
    be slightly out of tune and the running engine blocks out the weak
    signal. There is also the chance that your receiver in the garage is
    sending out a weaker signal then what it use to.

    Doordoc
    www.DoorsAndOpeners.com
     
    Doordoc, Jan 20, 2004
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  5. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    I have the same old hand held garage door opener I've had before
    this problem started. It is NOT one of those newer, more secure openers
    with the rolling or encrypted code. Replacing the battery seems to make
    no difference. There must be some kind of RF interference emitted from
    the running car that seems to act as a jammer on the garage door
    transmitter and I figure it must have started after one of the regular
    service visits but I did not make the mental connection right away. I
    used to be able to open or close the garage from the street at the end
    of my driweway but now I have to work at it with the car's front almost
    touching the garage door. It's really frustrating.

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jan 20, 2004
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    Bob W. Guest

    It maybe just a coincidence between the recent service on the car and
    the door opener not receiving as well. It is possible that something
    in the house is causing the door opener to not receive the
    transmitters signal as well. You may have a situation where the door
    opener receiver is being desensed or overloaded with an unwanted
    signal. A baby monitor, cordless phone are some possibilities.

    This doesn't have anything to do with a door opener but I once had an
    interference problem with my satellite dish on certain channels. I
    eventually traced it down to a UPS on my computer. So maybe something
    as innocuous as this might be interfering. Start by turning things
    off in the house and see where that may lead you.

    I installed two openers in my parents garages a number of years ago.
    Both worked equally well but then one day my mother was complaining
    that the door on her side of the garage wasn't working as well. She
    complained that she had to be right in front of the door to open it.
    We tried a new battery in the transmitter but that didn't help. What
    it turned out to be was my father decided to install brackets on the
    garage ceiling to hang his aluminum ladder in order to get it off the
    floor of the garage. The ladder was causing the door opener mechanism
    to not receive as well. Removing the ladder from the ceiling made the
    opener operate as it should. Putting it back and the problem
    reappeared. An adjustment on the little wire antenna improved
    reception but not like it was without the ladder being near the
    opener.

    But first try reorienting the little wire antenna on the door opening
    mechanism if it has one sticking out the back.

    Just a few ideas. Hope this helps.

    Bob
     
    Bob W., Jan 20, 2004
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  7. R. P.

    Bob W. Guest

    Rudy,
    One other idea. Try using your handheld transmitter outside of the
    car with the car turned off and walking up and down your driveway.
    That should give you an idea if the car is interfering or not.
     
    Bob W., Jan 20, 2004
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    Doordoc Guest

    So if you put the transmitter in a different car w/ it running does it
    work or is the problem only there when it is in your car. This would
    narrow now whether the interfrence comes from your car or if the
    transmitter has a crack in the solder or loose part & it is the
    vibration of the car running causing the problem as opposed to a radio
    interference.

    I once see a problem where if the customer parked a particular car in
    the garage or driveway (without it running)all the transmitters quit
    working unless you touched the receiver antenna w/ the transmitter. If
    you took that one car down the street all of the transmitters worked
    fine. They were also old radio controls that the problem started w/
    the car battery being changed. I reasoned that the interference was
    coming from his car alarm but his mechanics couldn't eliminate the
    problem. After a few weeks of fighting it, we ended up changing his
    receiver & transmitters to a different brand that was on a different
    frequency to get them to work. (His other choice would have been to
    sell the car, but he really liked the Mercedes convertible). However,
    it was one of those rare occasions that no-one really new for sure
    what was causing the problem.

    A thought that just comes to mind. Does your car have GPS or some time
    of satellite tracking system built in? If so disconnect it & see if
    the problem goes away.

    Doordoc
    www.DoorsAndOpeners.com
     
    Doordoc, Jan 21, 2004
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  9. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    Bob, you did not pay close attention to my original post which I
    started as so:
    "I noticed lately that the effective range of my garage door opener is
    greatly reduced when the engine is running vis-a-vis when it is not."
    That makes it obvious that it is something in the running engine.
    However, I may have found the source. Something in the heater control
    unit because when no button is pushed , the problem seems to be gone.
    This could explain why I have been experiencing the problem only
    recently. Because I have one of the heater buttons pressed only since
    the cold weather. Otherwise none of the heater buttons are pressed. I
    need to experiment more with this discovery but it looks like a
    promising lead. However I still am greatful for the helpful tips you
    all suggested.

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jan 21, 2004
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