Service schedule for 2007 Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by JXStern, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. JXStern

    JXStern Guest

    OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
    on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
    maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
    just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.

    I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
    100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
    need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?

    I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
    changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
    just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
    "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
    everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".

    Thanks.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jan 22, 2008
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  2. JXStern

    Jeff Guest

    Actually, it is exactly true. You don't need to do any tune-ups for
    100,000 mi. In the old days, you needed to change the plugs, the wires,
    the rotor, the cap, etc. Now, you don't need to do any of this for
    100,000 mi.

    They said "no tune-ups" not no maintenance.

    Nothing inaccurate or misleading in what they said.
    Go for the oil change only. You should be able to find to find
    instructions on resetting the maintenance light in your owner's manual.

    Get the list of everything they check with the "minor service" and learn
    to check them yourself.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 22, 2008
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  3. JXStern

    Say What? Guest


    Unless you bought the vehicle used and somebody kept the manuals, I
    suspect your answer is in the glove box. I received two items relative
    to the maintenance schedule with my 2006. The more comprehensive one is
    in the owner's manual. While Honda could have changed this, common
    sense argues against it.

    Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
    that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.

    To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
    information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
    filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
    falling off the car<g>
     
    Say What?, Jan 22, 2008
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  4. JXStern

    JXStern Guest

    Well, it's not entirely clear. BMW now includes all standard
    maintenance for 100k. That's sort of kind of what Honda wants it to
    sound like. Of course it's not exactly true, for the Honda, but now I
    find they're not making clear what you should be doing - and the local
    dealer leverages that into selling this "minor service" deal.

    Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
    city.

    I'll go check the glove box for a secondary book that might have a
    maintenance schedule, but I thought that used to be in the main book.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jan 22, 2008
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  5. JXStern

    Jeff Guest

    A "deal." 5 cases of Pepsi (12 cans) for $11 is a deal. What they're
    selling sounds like a "steal."
    And the cool thing is that you can shop around for other dealers or take
    it to any shop or even do the work yourself.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 22, 2008
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  6. I do not think anybody exactly answered your question. There is no
    printed maintenance schedule for the 2006 and beyond Hondas. The
    indicator on the odometer window will tell you exactly what you need
    to do or have done. Oil changes every 6000 miles is about the same as
    what mine is telling me. The last time the little wrench thingey lit
    up, the maintenance minder said B 1 2. I was able to go to the manual
    and see what B 1 2 called for. I did everything myself except the oil
    change. I have those done simply because it is such a bother to
    dispose of the used oil. Then I reset the minder following the
    instructions in the manual.


    Elliot Richmond
    Itinerant astronomy teacher
    Freelance science writer
     
    Elliot Richmond, Jan 22, 2008
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  7. JXStern

    Say What? Guest

    Look over the maintenance items. Minor service, IMO, is for the sheeple
    too lazy to do anything, including reading the manual, other than pop
    the gas tank cap and occasionally throw some washer fluid in the tank
    when they can no longer see out the windshield.<g>

    I can get my oil and filter changed and tires rotated for under $45.
    While it's up on the rack I can do my own "walk around"

    No, it's called running a profitable business. You can be an informed
    consumer or a sheeple. I do what I can and shop wisely for the best
    price and competency level on the rest of it.


    They are probably pretty much the same across the 2007 Honda's but if
    you have an Accord, turn to page 191 of your owners manual and READ it.
    Maintenance is tied in to the Maintenance Minder vs. specific
    mileages. Depending upon the code which comes up when the oil change is
    due, various maintenance functions, listed in this section of the
    manual, will need to be done.

    2006 also uses this but, as I recall, also has somewhat of a chart -
    similar to what most of us are used to.

    All the 2007 manuals are available at:


    https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/RJAAI001_OMANUAL.ASP?YEAR=2007
     
    Say What?, Jan 22, 2008
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  8. JXStern

    JXStern Guest

    Well, thank you for a clear answer!

    I saw the codes and all, but didn't realize that was meant to
    completely replace any fixed schedule!

    So, A-1 at 12,000 miles just means change the oil, not even the
    filter, and rotate the wheels? Well, I may just splurge. I mean,
    wouldn't you?


    Actually, I think I had to reset the minder after my first oil change,
    shop simply forgot to do it. I did check the oil and found it clean!

    Harumph. Just as a test, I guess I'll call the dealer, tell them the
    code and mileage, and ask for their recommendation. Heh. Like I
    don't know already.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jan 22, 2008
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  9. JXStern

    JXStern Guest

    That's me, basically, only I do wash the windshield without the spray.
    I'm sure I did that, once.

    Just want to keep the warranty valid.

    Nearest shop (eg, dealer) seems generally competent, and honest, if
    greedy. Rather less greedy than the Acura dealer, where I had to keep
    fending off recommendations to clean the injectors, yada yada.

    Thanks.

    I guess the news to me is that they are entirely *serious* about this
    minder deal, I though it was just a widget to tell you when to change
    the oil, based on hours, RPMs, and cold starts - or something like
    that.

    And now the trick is to see if the dealer will honor it without a lot
    of noise. They send out these coupon books, and nowhere does it offer
    "A-1 service for $50", which is about what it looks like it oughta be.
    Plus or minus splurging on the filter.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jan 22, 2008
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  10. JXStern

    Jeff Guest

    Well, all you need to do is rotate the tires, change the oil, and
    inspect the thing at the recommended intervals.
    You say, "the dealer." Is there another dealer near where you live?

    If not, is there a gas station or garage that can change the oil, rotate
    the tires and reset the indicator light?

    If the answer is "yes" to either question, then I would go elsewhere
    than the dealer you have been going to.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 22, 2008
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  11. JXStern

    Say What? Guest


    Honda is well-known for a great engine with great longevity. I have
    seen (over the course of five oil changes, etc.) a variation on the
    mileage before the minder called for service. I'm sure they know what
    they're doing.

    I'm sure that the "widget" takes all that and more into consideration.
    GM's had it for years and has issued numerous TSB's to their dealerships
    in an effort to get them (the dealers) to back off the old "3000 miles
    for oil and filter change" and let their maintenance minder system
    govern the need.

    While it's not critical, you might want to go back and see what you did
    on the first change. Think hard. All the follow up recommendations are
    predicated upon following their schedule.

    Two things of note: On my 2006 (and I didn't check the 2007 book but
    assume it's the same). Honda specifically warned the owner to NOT
    change out the oil before the maintenance minder called for it and,
    secondly, specified NO filter change at the first oil change.
    Good luck!<g>
     
    Say What?, Jan 22, 2008
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  12. JXStern

    JXStern Guest

    I took it to the (different) dealer where I bought it, gave them the
    "first oil change free" coupon, and told them to take care of it.
    About forty minutes later I was out of there.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jan 22, 2008
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  13. That's because you bought your shiny new $25,000 toy and never bothered
    actually to READ the owner's manual. Nah, you know how to drive a CAR!
    Why the **** read a book about it?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 22, 2008
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  14. JXStern

    JXStern Guest

    Damn straight.
     
    JXStern, Jan 23, 2008
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  15. JXStern

    Brian Smith Guest

    Yet people like you, come here to ask the same old questions and READ
    the answers. You could cut out the middleman and just read the manual in the
    first place.
     
    Brian Smith, Jan 23, 2008
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  16. the maintance light is turned off by pushing the odometer button hold
    it turn on the key hold the button for six seconds the light goes off
     
    Timothy Stoughton, Jan 23, 2008
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  17. JXStern

    jim beam Guest

    think about it - the answers are already both in his glove box /and/
    online, yet he's asking the question anyway. therefore it's all about
    the, er, "social interaction" and not about the car. like those morons
    bleating about washer fluid.

    bottom line, don't complain, just ignore their dumb asses. if you don't
    play, they'll get bored and f*** off. elmo, you rise to the bait all
    the freakin' time - you have some interesting and valuable comments to
    make some times, but wasting your precious bodily fluids on idiots is
    utterly pointless.
     
    jim beam, Jan 23, 2008
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  18. |
    | | >
    | > Damn straight.
    |
    | Yet people like you, come here to ask the same old questions and READ
    | the answers. You could cut out the middleman and just read the manual in
    the
    | first place.

    I think there is an issue of expectations here... If you've purchased new
    cars in the past, particularly if you've done so over a period of 10, 20,
    30+ years, but not every year, you expect to find a service schedule in the
    manual or service log book even if you do read the manual. As such, it might
    help matters if the dealer rep who delivers the car explained that the
    maintenance schedule is determined by and reported by the car itself rather
    than listed in some part of the documents provided. It may take a while for
    people's expectations to catch up with the technology...

    John
     
    John Grossbohlin, Jan 23, 2008
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  19. JXStern

    Brian Smith Guest

    I agree, normal people would expect the purchaser of a new vehicle to
    read the Owners Manual. It only makes sense.
    Use the same old tried and true methods that have worked over the last
    forty years and have no worries.
     
    Brian Smith, Jan 23, 2008
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  20. |
    | | >
    | > I think there is an issue of expectations here...

    | Use the same old tried and true methods that have worked over the last
    | forty years and have no worries.

    Of course, it's human nature! ...and it goes the other way too. I've met a
    lot of kids who have never "dialed" a phone and aren't sure what to do with
    a rotary phone, cannot tell the time on a clock with hands, have no idea how
    to use the most basic of tools or function in the woods, and wouldn't even
    fathom the notion of walking somewhere... It's what you were socialized to
    as you grew up. In the case of the service manuals, even though the manual
    mentions the service related lights and displays, in the back of the mind
    the notion of a schedule exists so the search for a schedule is under
    taken... Does it make good sense? Probably not... but then one could argue
    that much of the technology doesn't make sense, e.g., Power windows? What's
    wrong with a crank? LOL
     
    John Grossbohlin, Jan 23, 2008
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