Shuddering when taking off

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by emil.santos, Oct 21, 2006.

  1. emil.santos

    sharx333 Guest

    Thanks for the heads-up, jim! The plugs aren't that old (3 months), and
    I checked them last month.

    However, I opened up the distributor and saw that the rotor (2 months
    old) has a "burn mark" on it. The old rotor was replaced because of
    this same problem -- it was corroded badly in the exact same place.

    What could be causing it?

    Here's a pic of the rotor:

    http://hondaswap.com/attachments/general-tech-maintenance/1196d1161673365-strange-distributor-rotor-problem-rotor_burn.jpg
     
    sharx333, Oct 24, 2006
    #21
  2. emil.santos

    sharx333 Guest

    Thanks for the heads-up, jim! The plugs aren't that old (3 months), and
    I checked them last month.

    However, I opened up the distributor and saw that the rotor (2 months
    old) has a "burn mark" on it. The old rotor was replaced because of
    this same problem -- it was corroded badly in the exact same place.

    What could be causing it?

    Here's a pic of the rotor:

    http://hondaswap.com/attachments/general-tech-maintenance/1196d1161673365-strange-distributor-rotor-problem-rotor_burn.jpg
     
    sharx333, Oct 24, 2006
    #22
  3. I guess you can scratch that off your list!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Oct 24, 2006
    #23
  4. I guess you can scratch that off your list!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Oct 24, 2006
    #24
  5. emil.santos

    jim beam Guest

    that's entirely normal. the rotor and cap posts don't touch, so the
    spark has to jump the gap between them. the result is what you see.
    this is why the cap & rotor need replacement periodically, but that
    period is quite extended - usually something in the range of 100k miles.

    bottom line, make sure your electrical system is healthy, but expect it
    to cure what is most likely a mechanical problem with the clutch.

    don't try to modify the distributor. apart from early problems with
    igniters, honda engineers knew their business when designing that thing.
    the integrated coil and igniter ensure maximum spark energy without
    losses and signal noise in long leads. supposed problems with heat are
    b.s. - all components operate well within their capacity.
     
    jim beam, Oct 24, 2006
    #25
  6. emil.santos

    jim beam Guest

    that's entirely normal. the rotor and cap posts don't touch, so the
    spark has to jump the gap between them. the result is what you see.
    this is why the cap & rotor need replacement periodically, but that
    period is quite extended - usually something in the range of 100k miles.

    bottom line, make sure your electrical system is healthy, but expect it
    to cure what is most likely a mechanical problem with the clutch.

    don't try to modify the distributor. apart from early problems with
    igniters, honda engineers knew their business when designing that thing.
    the integrated coil and igniter ensure maximum spark energy without
    losses and signal noise in long leads. supposed problems with heat are
    b.s. - all components operate well within their capacity.
     
    jim beam, Oct 24, 2006
    #26
  7. emil.santos

    sharx333 Guest

    So I guess the problem is narrowed down to the clutch... Will post back
    when I've had it checked out.

    Thanks again to everyone who replied!
     
    sharx333, Oct 25, 2006
    #27
  8. emil.santos

    sharx333 Guest

    So I guess the problem is narrowed down to the clutch... Will post back
    when I've had it checked out.

    Thanks again to everyone who replied!
     
    sharx333, Oct 25, 2006
    #28
  9. emil.santos

    TE Chea Guest

    | any way to check the induction coil?
    I'm not sure, mine ( may be a transformer ) 1st failed only when
    hot & during acceleration from idling, not easy to simulate the
    same conditions.
    http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/0c/f2/cb/0900823d800cf2cb.jsp
    teaches chking these copper wires, but not their insulation
    lacquer.

    | Can I repair it
    Unlikely ; copper coil is sealed in a plastic casing. See what your
    automobile-electrician says. 1 can buy a re-con coil, my whole
    distributor is a re-con ( retailed @ M$ 280 = ~US$ 75.27 ).

    | please explain more about adding a heatsink or "wire" to the
    | distributor and induction coil?
    I tried to post 1 photo, but none is allowed in these NG`s.
    1 can glue hsinks, or fit copper wires from distributor cap's
    bolts ( ideally with washer-connectors & silver paste ) to
    bolts on engine compartment walls, primarily to stop another
    lacquer crack, but exhaust noise drops too ( even more in my
    Mitsubishi 4G15P 's distributor, likewise cooled ).

    | > #18
    correction - #16
     
    TE Chea, Oct 25, 2006
    #29
  10. emil.santos

    TE Chea Guest

    | any way to check the induction coil?
    I'm not sure, mine ( may be a transformer ) 1st failed only when
    hot & during acceleration from idling, not easy to simulate the
    same conditions.
    http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/0c/f2/cb/0900823d800cf2cb.jsp
    teaches chking these copper wires, but not their insulation
    lacquer.

    | Can I repair it
    Unlikely ; copper coil is sealed in a plastic casing. See what your
    automobile-electrician says. 1 can buy a re-con coil, my whole
    distributor is a re-con ( retailed @ M$ 280 = ~US$ 75.27 ).

    | please explain more about adding a heatsink or "wire" to the
    | distributor and induction coil?
    I tried to post 1 photo, but none is allowed in these NG`s.
    1 can glue hsinks, or fit copper wires from distributor cap's
    bolts ( ideally with washer-connectors & silver paste ) to
    bolts on engine compartment walls, primarily to stop another
    lacquer crack, but exhaust noise drops too ( even more in my
    Mitsubishi 4G15P 's distributor, likewise cooled ).

    | > #18
    correction - #16
     
    TE Chea, Oct 25, 2006
    #30
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