"Silverstar" Headlight Replacement Bulbs For Accords: Worth Doing ?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Robert11, Jan 5, 2004.

  1. Robert11

    Robert11 Guest

    Hello;

    Please see my previous post, and several answers, regarding
    2004 Accord headlight illumination concern question.

    Saw some posts where others have gone to "Silverstars".

    My questions are:

    a. anyone here make the swap, and is worth doing ?

    b. are they the same electrical wattage as what's in there now ?

    c. any warranty implications ?

    d. life the same as the OEM bulbs ?

    Any other thoughts would be most appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Bob
     
    Robert11, Jan 5, 2004
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  2. Robert11

    Randolph Guest

    a. anyone here make the swap, and is worth doing ?

    Done the swap from stock 9003 to Sylvania 9003 SilverStar and did see
    some improvement. For me it was worth it.
    Yes, they are the same wattage but somewhat more efficient.
    None whatsoever
    Don't know, my annual headlight expenditures ar low enough that I don't
    care.
    I use 9003 bulbs, I do not know what you use. Osram SilverStar H4 bulbs
    are brighter than the Sylvania SilverStar 9003 bulb and the two are
    otherwise interchangeable. H4 bulbs are not DOT compliant.
    http://www.suvlights.com sells both kinds.
     
    Randolph, Jan 6, 2004
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  3. I do not know about these specific lights but I can comment on the "cool
    blue" lights that are mady by Sylvania I think. They can be up to twice as
    much and the burn out rate was more than twice as fast as the stock bulbs so
    the stock bulbs were less than a quarter of the cost of the cool blues. I
    no longer buy any bulbs other than the less inexpensive stock bulbs and I
    make sure my lights are adjusted correctly.

    I do doubt however that the bulbs are brighter than stock because there is a
    federal law that limits the light output of headlights. Of course this
    doesn't apply to high wattage bulbs that usually state on them "for offroad
    use only." It isn't like the cops would know what kind of bulbs you had.

    My two cents.

    CaptainKrunch
     
    CaptainKrunch, Jan 6, 2004
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  4. Robert11

    Fergie Guest

    I suggest you check out this site.
    I found it "enlightening". (I know...bad one)

    http://www.danielsternlighting.com/

    Frank
     
    Fergie, Jan 6, 2004
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  5. Funny how things work out sometimes....I just replaced my PIAA lights with
    the Silverstar bulbs (one PIAA was DOA & I couldn't find a replacement so I
    switched both bulbs).

    Now keep in mind that this was done on my 98 Accord....and I only did the
    low beams.

    Between the OEM bulbs and the Silverstar...the Silverstar bulbs give off a
    MUCH more WHITE light. VERY noticeable when you put them side by side (OK I
    was bored). The PIAA -vs- the SIlverstar...almost the same color. Both
    very nice.

    I perfer the light that is the most like daylight (the Silverstar are 4000K
    and that's about as bright as DOT -approved lights can be folks).

    Not sure what else to say... other than I bought mine at Auto Zone for $20
    each and had MIR forms for another $5 off a pair.

    Scott Wallace
     
    Scott Wallace, Jan 6, 2004
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  6. Yep, just did it. 91 Accord. Very happy.
    Would have prefered to get the untinted Osram Silverstars, but I really
    don't want to have to special order or mail order light bulbs. Sylvanias are
    available at Canadian Tire. $24CDN a bulb.
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Jan 6, 2004
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  7. Robert11

    Randolph Guest

    there is a
    Which is probably why, in the US, Sylvania (which is the same company as
    Osram) is selling SilverStar with 30% more light than stock and not the
    European SilverStars which give off 50% more light than stock.
     
    Randolph, Jan 6, 2004
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  8. I would like to see how they are measuring light and what loophole they are
    jumping through. Is it total lumens or lumens at a given distance or is it
    temperature or what? Perhaps they are able to get more light from the same
    wattage bulbs and they are following the wattage laws.

    CaptainKrunch
     
    CaptainKrunch, Jan 6, 2004
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  9. Robert11

    Sean Donaher Guest

    The light appear brighter because the bulbs are coated blue. This filters
    out the blue light and makes the light appear whiter as opposed to the sort
    of yellowish tint of normal hallogens. They have the same lumen count as
    the factory bulbs though. Both emit 1000 lumens for the low beams (2003
    Accord, older models' bulbs may vary). Even though they aren't really
    brighter from a lumen stand point, I still like the Silverstars in my car
    because of the whiter light. I find it easier on the eyes at night.
     
    Sean Donaher, Jan 7, 2004
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  10. Robert11

    Randolph Guest

    Me too, so I contacted Sylvania, asking about the differences between
    standard, XtraVision, CoolBlue and SilverStar. This is what they
    replied:

    "The XtraVision is a brighter product in terms of lumen output. The
    increase in output on the XtraVision is by gaining a wider beam pattern
    for better peripheral vision. The Cool Blue is a slightly higher color
    temperature than the standard version, which gives it a whiter
    appearance. A standard product is 3200 degrees Kelvin and Cool Blue is
    at 3500
    degrees Kelvin. The higher the color temperature the whiter the light
    will be. The SilverStar has a color temperature of 4000 degrees Kelvin
    and as I mentioned in the previous email, SilverStar also has the
    redesigned filament and gas mixture to maintain a fuller beam pattern.
    Down
    road distance on all these products are the same. The difference is in
    how intense the light output will be and the color of the light output."
     
    Randolph, Jan 9, 2004
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  11. Robert11

    Tera Baap Guest

    Good info... What you should do is pick up the OSRAM Silverstars (Made in
    Germany). These are different from the Sylvania Silverstars even though
    Osram and Sylvania are the same company. I got mine from
    DanielSternlighting.com. I changed my Civic's bulbs (stock) to these ones
    and I was pleasantly surprised.

    It;s a good investment
     
    Tera Baap, Jan 9, 2004
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  12. Robert11

    Me Guest

    Lumens are a bad measures of automobiles lighting. Here is why:

    lumen [n] a unit of luminous flux equal to the amount of light given
    out through a solid angle of 1 steradian by a point source of 1
    candela intensity radiating uniformly in all directions

    candela [n] the basic unit of luminous intensity adopted under the
    System International d'Unites; equal to 1/60 of the luminous intensity
    per square centimeter of a black body radiating at the temperature of
    2,046 degrees Kelvin

    One lumen is the equivalent of 1.46 milliwatt (1.46 x 10-3 W) of
    radiant electromagnetic (EM) power at a frequency of 540 terahertz
    (540 THz or 5.40 x 1014 Hz). Reduced to SI base units, one lumen is
    equal to 0.00146 kilogram meter squared per second cubed (1.46 x 10-3
    kg multiplied by m2 / s3).

    Therefore, depending on how you measure, a lumen is is only the light
    output at 2046 Kelvin OR the equivilent or the equivalent light output
    a 2046 Kelvin body would have.

    Since the human eye does not absorb all frequencies with the same
    sensitivity, this is a moot measurement. On top of that, lumens are a
    measure of DIRECT light. Since as drivers we don't stand 40 feet in
    front of our cars looking at our own headlights, it is also stupid to
    measure the light from that point. What SHOULD be measured is the
    amount of light reflected back to the driver's eye from a known
    reflective body (i.e. a green road sign, a red stop sign, etc) in a
    frequency-dependant manner based on the human eye. No one has EVER
    used this type of measurement that I know, and as such, all talk of
    lumens and "illegal" bulbs is a pointless endeavor.

    Nate
     
    Me, Jan 9, 2004
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  13. Robert11

    Randolph Guest

    Since the human eye does not absorb all frequencies with the same
    Not true. For light sources that are not 555 nm monochromatic, a
    standardized weighting curve is used. The human eye perceives x lumens
    to be equally bright regardless of what color the light is, but 1 lumen
    at 600 nm corresponds to more than the 1.45 mW it corresponds to at 555
    nm.
     
    Randolph, Jan 9, 2004
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  14. I replaced the OEM bulbs in my Element with Silverstars....Great
    light, color, etc.

    Only problem is that they burnt out after only six months. Both
    headlights went out within three days of each other.

    I replaced them with Silverstars again (giving Sylvania the benefit of
    the doubt)-- will be watching the clock closely this time.

    Saturn
     
    Saturn S. Padua, Jan 9, 2004
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  15. Robert11

    J. Guest

    I was considering the Silverstars until I saw the comparison charts for
    Silverstars vs standard and longlife halogen bulbs on the Sylvania website.
    My Prelude uses H1 bulbs (T-2 1/2 style) and Sylvania's charts showed a 100
    hr life for H1 Silverstars vs 225 hr for their standard halogen. Digging
    into their definitions yielded some interesting insights. The life rating
    is basically where statistically 50% of the bulbs are expected to die, but
    the range varies widely.

    Also, the actual light output was about 25% LESS for the Silverstars even
    though the wattage is upped from 55W to 65W. Presumably, the 4000 degree
    color of the Silverstars allows the eye to see (or perceive to see) more
    light.

    I found the comparisons on their website by searching for details on the
    bulb STYLE, once I got the style from the basic bulb number. Other
    Silverstar bulbs (has an "ST" suffix) sometimes matched the same light
    output as standard halogens, but I think all had significantly less rated
    life.

    see http://www.sylvaniaautocatalog.com/sylvania/halogenhead.asp


    J.
     
    J., Jan 10, 2004
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