Swap D15B2 USDM with D15B JDM

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by larson.joshua, Mar 16, 2007.

  1. Like my subject says, I'd like to swap a D15B2 USDM with a D15B JDM
    motor. From what little I've found, this JDM motor can go into my 91
    Civic DX, but I must use my throttle body, intake and exhaust
    manifolds.

    All I want is a replacement motor. I don't care about going fast and
    furious, I just want to take out my blown original and get my car
    back.

    There's conflicting info about the D15B that causes me to be a bit
    wary, however. Some say it is a VTEC motor with substantially more hp
    than my D15B2 (90hp vs 130hp). If it is VTEC, how will my ECU be able
    to run this motor. It's also supposedly MPFI, whereas my current
    motor is DPFI. These differences are pretty steep in my book and I'm
    trying to figure out if these motors are similar enough for a direct
    drop-in.

    If anyone has any information I'd really appreciate it!

    btw - the following link is the company I'm considering buying the
    motor from:

    http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm
     
    larson.joshua, Mar 16, 2007
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  2. larson.joshua

    jim beam Guest

    just call and make sure you order one that's year appropriate if you
    want stock replacement. the vtec will disappoint if you're not going to
    connect the gear to run it since the cam will be in "low performance"
    mode all the time. if you /do/ want to run the vtec, the electrical
    conversion is doable with the help of the folks at boomslang, but imo,
    it's still non-trivial. but the motor drops right in.
     
    jim beam, Mar 17, 2007
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  3. so, just a few questions.

    1 - running the vtec is possible, but do you think i'll need a
    different ECU?

    2 - does the vtec require MPFI?

    3 - is converting to MPFI a pain?

    4 - so the D15B JDM will drop right in (if i decide on a simple swap),
    using my intake, exhaust, throttle body and ECU?

    i really appreciate your help!
     
    larson.joshua, Mar 18, 2007
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  4. larson.joshua

    jim beam Guest

    to do it "properly", yes. there is an aftermarket vtec kit out there
    that will allow you to get around that - it will operate a simple vtec
    on/off solenoid independent of the ecu based on rpm's, but i've not used
    one so can't endorse. i'm also not sure if the odbI ecu's shift their
    cam timing around or whether that motor has multiple more than 2 cam
    profiles, but if yes to either, factory ecu conversion is the way to go.
    for maximum advantage, yes.
    yes! the mechanicals are easy - it's the wiring that's the pain. go to
    boomslang.com for the least brain damage solution.

    it's going to cost you a fair bit more to do the conversion. vtec ecu's
    aren't cheap. the conversion wiring kits aren't cheap. the 4pfi
    manifolds, throttle bodies, plumbing, etc. aren't cheap, even if you get
    them from a junk yard. you'll also be best advised to get the factory
    shop manuals for the patient and donor vehicles too.
    yes. some of the motors have blanking plugs on some widgets that the
    japanese use that we don't, but other than that, they're identical. you
    don't mind japanese stickers on your engine do you?
    call your vendor - they'll advise best.

    my advice is that if you want this car for transport and it's your daily
    driver, just do the straight swap. if this is a second car, it's a
    science experiment, you're good at jigsaw puzzles, and you're good with
    wiring diagrams, it's fun to go down the 4pfi road.
     
    jim beam, Mar 18, 2007
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