Swedish man finds a way to run his car on.... wood?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by antianti, Aug 15, 2008.

  1. antianti

    antianti Guest

    Sweden has lots of trees.

    http://muvy.org/new.php
     
    antianti, Aug 15, 2008
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  2. antianti

    dgk Guest

    It won't if this catches fire.

    "7 square metres of wood" What is a square metre of wood? Cubic, that
    I can see, but square is meaningless without a third dimension.
     
    dgk, Aug 15, 2008
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  3. antianti

    dgk Guest

    It won't if this catches fire.

    "7 square metres of wood" What is a square metre of wood? Cubic, that
    I can see, but square is meaningless without a third dimension.
     
    dgk, Aug 15, 2008
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    C. E. White Guest

    I didn't look at the link, but years ago my high school shop teacher
    described how the saw a German civilian run a small truck off wood at
    the end of WWII. According to his tale, the driver places wood in a
    closed chamber mounted in the bed of the truck. The chamber was heated
    by a wood fire in a stove under the upper chamber. Heating wood
    without letting it burn (no oxygen) drives gases off the wood. These
    gases are flammable. The gases were piped to the intake of the engine
    (like natural gas) and they powered the engine (poorly I assume). He
    claimed he actually saw a German doing this when he was there
    during/after WWII. He said the driver had to stop at intervals and
    replace the wood in the chamber and add wood to the fire under the
    chamber. I know that you can heat wood in a sealed can and burn the
    gases that are emitted (I've actually done that). I just don't see how
    you can regulate the flow properly. On the plus side, when you are
    done, you get charcoal.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Aug 15, 2008
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    ransley Guest

    All over europe in ww2 it was common, but it is super dirty and
    inneficent. It would ruin the air. Just as many areas had excessive
    pollution that has been reduced from stopping coal burning running a
    car on wood would be even worse.
     
    ransley, Aug 15, 2008
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  6. antianti

    ransley Guest

    All over europe in ww2 it was common, but it is super dirty and
    inneficent. It would ruin the air. Just as many areas had excessive
    pollution that has been reduced from stopping coal burning running a
    car on wood would be even worse.
     
    ransley, Aug 15, 2008
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  7. antianti

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Produces carbon monoxide, which is flamable.

    But if you're looking for readily available flamable materials, look
    no further than Usenet.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Sep 10, 2008
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    DB Guest

    I put this page up back in July for some community interest.

    http://lakeweb.net/gasifier/

    Proper gasification is not heating the wood without oxygen. The wood is
    burned in an oxygen poor environment. This creates CO and hydrogen. See
    the fisher-tropsch process. The carbon is utilized and charcoal does not
    remain. It is the same process for a gasifier furnace. Regulating the
    flow is as simple as a butterfly valve, see the PDFs in my links. It is
    self regulating. The more fuel you need, the more air pulled through the
    gasifier to generate that fuel.
     
    DB, Sep 10, 2008
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    Paul Guest

    Carbon monoxide is not flammable (or flamable). It is, however, poisonous.
     
    Paul, Sep 12, 2008
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  10. antianti

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide

    Quote:

    Carbon monoxide has significant fuel value, burning in air with a
    characteristic blue flame, producing carbon dioxide.

    Unquote.


    Carbon monoxide bonds much more readily to hemoglobin than either
    oxygen or carbon dioxide. As a result, blood is unable to transport
    O2 to the body or CO2 to the lungs. CO poisoning is characterized by
    a cherry color to the lips, gums and nail beds. Very low
    concentrations of CO can be toxic. Although vertigo and nausea are
    symptomic of CO poisoning, most cases are asymptomatic.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Sep 12, 2008
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  11. Carbon monoxide is designated a Class 1 Group C electrical hazard
    because it is highly flammable in air over a wide concentration range.

    By comparison, natural gas (methane) is Class 1 Group D, and is
    considered less of a hazard.

    --Gene
     
    Gene S. Berkowitz, Sep 15, 2008
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