Synthetic Oil question

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by alfred, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. alfred

    alfred Guest

    Hello,

    My 2008 Accord now has 1000 miles on it. Its a month old. I am at 80% right
    now, which I guess is good. I know that when I need the oil changed I should
    wait until about 15% and my dealer which I will have the change done at uses
    Synthetic. I think they use mobile 1 but I am not 100% sure on that. So is
    there a difference on using Synthetic vs regular oil? Will the car perform
    better in terms of more easily reving and picking up speed?

    I noticed that right now the car is a little sluggish at lower rpms
    especially in slow travel. Once you get the rpms up to 3000 or you are going
    40 mph and then step on the gas its another story and the car really goes!
    So I am wondering if thats because of the oil from the factory or just
    because its the way the car is?

    Thanks,
    Al
     
    alfred, Dec 11, 2007
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  2. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    I believe it does. But I only like Mobil 1, and can't speak for other
    brands.
    Could be the way the car's computer is set for rpms that you are
    experiencing.

    But it could help with some good oil in there, as I always experienced a
    change in the way my motors ran with Mobil 1.

    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 12, 2007
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  3. alfred

    DodgeDriver Guest

    [snipped]

    An automobile engine is not a motor.
     
    DodgeDriver, Dec 12, 2007
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  4. alfred

    AZ Nomad Guest

    Actually, it is.



    mo·tor (m.'t.r) pronunciation
    n.

    1. Something, such as a machine or an engine, that produces or imparts
    motion.
    2. A device that converts any form of energy into mechanical energy,
    especially an internal-combustion engine or an arrangement of coils and
    magnets that converts electric current into mechanical power.
    3. A motor vehicle, especially an automobile: .It was a night of lovers.
    All along the highway . motors were parked and dim figures were clasped in
    revery. (Sinclair Lewis).
     
    AZ Nomad, Dec 12, 2007
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  5. alfred

    DodgeDriver Guest

     
    DodgeDriver, Dec 12, 2007
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  6. alfred

    alfred Guest

    Now that we have that out of the way we can continue with this tread about
    benefits of Synthetic Oil.

    I'm just wondering if there is a performance benefit in terms of letting the
    car rev more freely?

    Al
     
    alfred, Dec 12, 2007
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  7. "alfred" wrote
    Tread? Now you want to talk about tires, not oil! OH, wait -- tires are made
    with oil.... never mind.

    ;-)
     
    Howard Lester, Dec 12, 2007
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  8. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    Thank you, AZ.

    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 13, 2007
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  9. alfred

    Polfus Guest


    Heh :)
     
    Polfus, Dec 13, 2007
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  10. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    That may be one of the weirdest things I have ever read.

    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 13, 2007
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  11. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    doesn't benefit revs, but there are benefits to synthetic. these
    include better chemical stability, lower ash, slightly better lubricity
    [with consequent slightly better fuel economy], better thermal
    stability, etc. wikipedia has an article on it that contains some
    useful information, but it tends to be vandalized quite often, so refer
    to the page over several weeks to get an idea of average consensus.
     
    jim beam, Dec 13, 2007
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  12. alfred

    bi241 Guest

    Yours is a 4 cyl with AT transmission, no?

    My 1989 Accord (242K miles and still running strong) does the same.
    Slugglish acceleration through the gears, but after the torque
    converter has locked up, i have to hold on to my seat cause it seems
    the car is possessed by demons!!!

    Honda Accord is a unique character while other mades are all the
    same.

    i've driven Honda, Buick, Ford, VW, Mazda, Toyota and i do think
    Accords are somewhat unsuitale for city driving, But if i have to take
    one to interstate travel, i'll take a Honda everytime

    oh by the way, Castrol Syntec 5W-20 works best for mine
     
    bi241, Dec 13, 2007
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  13. alfred

    ACAR Guest

    When I first started using Mobil 1 synthetic, nearly 20 years ago, I
    was able to measure a gain in mpg over conventional oil in my 1.6 I4
    Honda engine. A few years ago I switched over an Accord at 15,000
    miles and did not notice a significant mpg gain. There may have been a
    gain but it could have been masked by season changes in fuel blend and/
    or cold weather fuel consumption change. The point being that current
    conventional oil is pretty darn good compared with current synthetic
    offerings.

    I continue to use synthetic for its superior thermal and chemical
    stability that allows me to extend my oil change interval.
     
    ACAR, Dec 13, 2007
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  14. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    let me guess, you're not using honda z1 atf, just ordinary dexron atf,
    right? typical symptom. believe it or not, if you change back to the
    honda fluid, your transmission will become smooth again.
     
    jim beam, Dec 13, 2007
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  15. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    it may also be that "synthetic" isn't what it once was. today, most
    brands seem to be just highly refined conventional base oils - the
    oilcos are highly reluctant to reveal content to consumers [somewhat odd
    considering that their formulations are analyzable by other oilcos, so
    it's not like they can protect a trade secret by being so coy].

    afaict, the only synthetic that boasts about what its base oil actually
    is, is motul - they use an ester-based formulation like genuine jet
    lubes. others claim to be based on 1-decene, but give no idea of
    proportions. mobil 1 claims a 50% difference in "supersyn" content
    between standard and high mileage formulations - something clearly
    impossible if "supersyn" is the real synthetic and standard formulation
    truly is supposed to be this synthetic base.

    bottom line, this whole subject is a murky pool of slime. suspicion and
    distrust will always be a buying decision factor if the vendor won't say
    what their product contains.
     
    jim beam, Dec 13, 2007
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  16. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    Holy crap! Thats amazing!

    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 13, 2007
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  17. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    Hey...thats wild. Im gonna remember that...thanks.

    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 13, 2007
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  18. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    Good points.

    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 13, 2007
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  19. alfred

    Pszemol Guest

    You are easily amused... this milleage is not unusuall.
    I drive toyota camry 4-cyl 1995 with 238k miles on the odometer.
     
    Pszemol, Dec 13, 2007
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  20. In other words, "marketing to stupid people".
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 14, 2007
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