Synthetic Oil question

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by alfred, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    Forget it Seth...if you think that Hondas *routinely* go over 200,000 miles,
    and that 10/10 people have Accords that lasted over 200,000 miles..then go
    ahead.

    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 16, 2007
    #41
  2. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    That's twice in a row you've attempted to insult me.

    So BITE ME, loser....and make teeth marks when you do, 'cause I am not a
    kid, nor have I ever owned a Ford in my life.

    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 16, 2007
    #42
  3. Spoken like someone who sees that jim spoke the truth.

    Hurts, doesn't it?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 16, 2007
    #43
  4. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    so how old are you?
     
    jim beam, Dec 16, 2007
    #44
  5. alfred

    Pszemol Guest

    You do not think this is a rule?
    Check the used cars listings in your area...
    All these cars are still drivable.
     
    Pszemol, Dec 17, 2007
    #45
  6. alfred

    bi241 Guest

    Listen, fool, until the torque converter locks up, automatic
    transmisssions operates in limited-slipping modes between engagement.
    Z1 eases the engagement of gears by extending the slipping mode! Your
    mother may like it smooth, but it's bad for your Honda transmissions
     
    bi241, Dec 17, 2007
    #46
  7. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    even f1 race cars, pretty much the ultimate in engineering design,
    strive to achieve smooth transmission shifting in their semi-automatics.
    not because they're driven by wussies, but because, as i've stated
    repeatedly before, it mitigates fatigue in the transmission and drive
    line. you need to study the effect of stress amplitude vs. fatigue
    life. a bit of tribology wouldn't hurt you either.
     
    jim beam, Dec 17, 2007
    #47
  8. alfred

    mopa Guest

    Castrol Synthetic is your better Oil.
     
    mopa, Dec 17, 2007
    #48
  9. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    I went to eBay and checked there, which has a lot more listings. For
    example, of all the completed listings for Honda Accords, all years, there
    are 962 listings. Of those, 61 have stated over 200,000, and some listings
    were rebuilt engines and others sold "as parts" or not running. That comes
    out to about 6% of the total.

    Of the current listings, there are 332 listings, of which 17 state over 200k
    miles...with same thing as above. That comes to 5% of the total. Or another
    way to look at it is 1294 total listings ( completed and current ) with 78
    total over 200k = 6% of the total.

    If you can point me to some other info that would help explain your
    amazement at my amazement, then please give a link.

    Your turn....

    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Dec 17, 2007
    #49
  10. alfred

    jim beam Guest


    er, you're merely looking at cars for sale, not cars that are owned and
    driven every day. better look in junk yards - those vehicles are at the
    end of their life and hondas routinely have 200k, 300k, or more.
     
    jim beam, Dec 18, 2007
    #50
  11. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    not so much stupid, ignorant. and if the manufacturers won't spill
    their beans, then /everyone/ is ignorant.
     
    jim beam, Dec 18, 2007
    #51
  12. alfred

    bi241 Guest


    You're confused, wise one. In race cars, as long as you don't get your
    neck broken by the shift shocks, it's smooth, but to the average
    consumer, barely noticeable shift shocks is smooth. As an analogy, a
    hotdog goes with mustard is smooth..

    Face it, you've got to have the coordination of a world-class gymnast
    to shift gears precisely and smoothly. Now you have it, automated
    manual transmission do the shifting with smoothness and a robotic
    precision. Honda automatics are just that..

    But Honda could never launch a marketing campaign for its automatic
    transmission technologies that as it did for its VTEC engines.
    Automatic transmissions, like hotdogs, are uniquely American.
    Declaring a war against the norm is commit suicide.

    Honda's automatic transmission design is superior, if you ask me. But
    selling cars equiped with Honda's automatic transmission in North
    American market is like is selling hotdogs garnished with plum sauce.
    Bad for your health? NO!! And yet the taste is strange. What Honda
    does is tell Joe Shmoe the consumer that adding cat piss to plum sauce
    will make the damn thing taste just like mustard.

    Now that is BAD!!!
     
    bi241, Dec 19, 2007
    #52
  13. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    in f1, it's not about the driver, it's about the peak loads on the
    transmission. the more it jerks, the higher the peak load. the higher
    the peak load, the lower the fatigue life. and, in racing, the lower
    the peak load, the lighter the componentry can be to achieve a fatigue
    life that will get it across the finish line in first place.

    a street honda is not built for racing, but it's not built for an
    infinite fatigue life either - that would make it too heavy. given that
    there is no speed or power advantage to jerky shifting, and that there
    is a substantial fatigue advantage [which happens also to benefit driver
    comfort] to making it smooth, there is no logic in disregard.
     
    jim beam, Dec 19, 2007
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