the belt

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mim, Dec 7, 2003.

  1. mim

    mim Guest

    Hi all,

    I just bought a 1989 Honda Integra Vtec with 140 000 miles. The dealer had
    no log books on it, so I dont know when the timing belt has been changed.
    Without pulling the engine apart, how would I be able to tell if it needs to
    be changed?

    Also one more question, the radiator seems to be losing half a litre of
    liquid every 2-3 days, although I don't see any water leaking out. A friend
    of mine said it could be a cracked head gasket (I hope not!!), but there is
    no indication of any mixture of oil and water. The hoses are fine. How would
    I be able to test for a cracked head gasket?

    Thanks
     
    mim, Dec 7, 2003
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  2. mim

    Caroline Guest

    I understand there really are no easily perceived symptoms to indicate whether a
    timing belt needs changing.

    Owners should go by time and mileage passed since the last change.

    You should probably consider getting a new timing belt and water pump (per
    below) to be on the safe side. A timing belt that spontaneously breaks can
    damage the engine and cost big bucks to fix, compared to just replacing the belt
    (and pump).
    Do you even smell radiator coolant in or outside the car? Could be the water
    pump (bearings or otherwise) is dying. They tend to last about as long as timing
    belts. People generally have a whole new water pump put in the same time they
    get a new timing belt for this reason and because the interference removal is
    about the same for each.
     
    Caroline, Dec 7, 2003
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  3. mim

    Artfulcodger Guest

    Check the engine compartment closely for a tag or markings on a firewall
    indicating a belt change.
    If no such writing that is not to say the belt was not changed however.

    The Artful Codger
     
    Artfulcodger, Dec 7, 2003
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    Daniel Guest

    If you are going through the trouble to pull the engine apart, then change
    the belt at that point. Belts are not expensive (50$ app). Most of the belt
    change cost is labor.
     
    Daniel, Dec 8, 2003
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  5. mim

    JR Lomas Guest

    Without pulling the engine apart, how would I be able to tell if it needs
    to
    Belts are usually hard to tell when they need to be replaced. However; you
    can make sure that your belt is NOT dying. If you pull the valve cover and
    the upper timing belt cover, you can use a 17mm socket to rotate the
    accessory pulley and look at the belt in its entirity. Make sure you the
    teeth
    look OK and there's no deterioration on them. Also, make sure the
    belt is not frayed and in good condition. If the car has never received a
    timing belt change at a delearship, check the maker of the belt (it will
    be written on the top), if it is Honda chances are the previous owner
    never replaced the belt.
    Belts should be replaced every 90,000 along with its water pump. I heard
    from someone in the newsgroup he was charged $1000 to replace it at a
    stealership. Truth is, the job should not take more than 4 hours and
    the belt is only worth ~$50. If you have any mechanical skills, you should
    be able to change it yourself in a day (maybe a weekend project).
    Otherwise you should be able to change it at an independent shop for
    ~$300. To make sure they DO change it, paint a mark on the old belt
    and ask them to give you the old part once they are done. Look for the
    paint mark you made.
    I hope this helps,

    - JR
     
    JR Lomas, Dec 8, 2003
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    marcel Guest

    How would
    oxidation/rust on the sparkplugs
    or a cole monoxide test on the cooling fluid

    marcel
     
    marcel, Dec 13, 2003
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    Barry S. Guest

    Cylinder Leakage Test. Listen/look for air in radiator..


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    Barry S., Dec 13, 2003
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    Eric Guest

    I've seen a few with some white crystals on the spark plugs though I've
    never noticed any with rust.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Dec 13, 2003
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