timing belt change based on length of time

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Chris Garcia, Jul 18, 2003.

  1. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

    i've seen all these discussions about "should i change it at 60k? or
    90k?" .. my recently acquired car is 7 years old and only has 15.2k on it..
    so i REALLY need to know what the *time* limit is on a timing belt... if
    any?

    thanks as always.

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    Chris Garcia, Jul 18, 2003
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  2. depending on what model yours is
    you might have two belts, timing belt, and timing balancing belt

    if you change one, you might want change the other as well - that what i did
    (the belts themselves are very cheap, its just the hassle of getting to
    them - hence the labour charge)
     
    Sahar Choudhury, Jul 18, 2003
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  3. Chris Garcia

    Zebra Guest

    Don't forget to renew the water pump when you renew the timing belt. It will
    save you time and money.
     
    Zebra, Jul 18, 2003
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  4. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

    "Sahar Choudhury" <> decided to join the
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    96 civic ex.. the shop i take it to has it right now, said it'd be about
    $250 for the labor i think.. and that's to replace all 4 belts, and
    something dealing with the cam and crank shafts (i'm not sure if it was
    the gears or the gaskets.. or both) since they said it wouldn't cost
    extra labor to do that.

    It looks like a fun job.. i think the a/c and cruise have to be moved or
    taken out, a MOTOR MOUNT has to be taken out (that's just CRAZY) .. Makes
    me glad i'm a computer tech and not a mechanic.

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    Chris Garcia, Jul 18, 2003
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  5. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

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    well, 72 months = 6 years.. so i'm a year and a half overdue.. the
    timing belt is very important to me, as I would rather just pay the $250-
    300 now instead of risking it. Another reason I wouldn't go over the time
    limit.. I live in Louisiana where it's constantly hot and humid.. I'm
    pretty sure high heat and humidity will accelerate the wear on them.

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    Chris Garcia, Jul 18, 2003
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    Davie Guest

    Bah! Motor mount is no big deal.
    I used to own two Dodge Spirit R/T's. Limited production (1208) so most
    mechanics had never wrenched on one. Ended up doing most of the work myself
    because (a) I'm a fast learner and (b) I was broke!
    Those things used to chew through timing belts like nobody's business.
    You'd be lucky to get 10,000 miles out of one. (Fortunately the engines are
    non-interference so if you lost one before you hit the traps you wouldn't
    lose your whole valvetrain!)
    Long story short you definitely have to remove a motor mount, among other
    things, to replace the timing belt. Just get yourself a good sturdy jack to
    hold the engine up while the mount is off.
    I got to the point in the golden era where I could swap one out in an hour
    and a half tops for about 150 bucks. Typical dealer charge for the same job
    was $750-$1000!

    It sure pays to be your own mechanic, but yeah I'm glad to be a computer
    tech too!

    -Dave
     
    Davie, Jul 18, 2003
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    Larry Gorbet Guest

    I'm similarly puzzled. I have a '95 Integra with 81k miles on it. So
    I'm reasonably comfortably under the 90k nominal limit, but it's also
    97 months old. Too independent Honda specialist mechanics have both
    told me to just wait till 90k (maybe 5 months from now). Any thoughts
    on how risky this might be?
     
    Larry Gorbet, Aug 14, 2003
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  8. Chris Garcia

    DrPimpDadi Guest

    I'm similarly puzzled. I have a '95 Integra with 81k miles on it. So
    DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It'll be the cheapest ($150) maintenance
    you'll ever need to do.



    U.S.A. "Go West Young Men..."

    Mexico "El Norte Hombre..."
     
    DrPimpDadi, Aug 14, 2003
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  9. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

    4Oil (DrPimpDadi) decided to join the conversation
    i agree.. when i did mine, they told me the belt was a little dry-rotted,
    and was a good idea to be changed.. (this was after 7 1/2 years and 15k
    miles)

    better to be safe than paying a crapload of money.

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    Chris Garcia, Aug 14, 2003
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    John Ings Guest

    The manual specifies every 90,000 miles OR every 72 months (6 years)

    Change it quick!
     
    John Ings, Aug 14, 2003
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  11. Chris Garcia

    Apexmeister Guest

    i've seen all these discussions about "should i change it at 60k? or
    Change it IMMEDIATELY. Time is more the enemy than mileage is on a
    timing belt. A timing belt is made of rubber and subjected to heat
    cycles every time you drive the car. Rubber deteriorates over time and
    the strength of the timing belt will be compromised when it falls
    beyond its life expectancy. That is why most timing belts break. If
    it doesn't break, the teeth on the timing belt can sheer right off
    doing the same damage to your engine as a timing belt breakage. You
    are way over the *safe* life expectancy of your timing belt. You are
    courting disaster with this car. You can't check to see if a timing
    belt is good. Have this service done by a qualified technician who is
    familiar with your car. A timing belt service will be much cheaper
    than an engine damaged by a snapped timing belt. You can pay the
    mechanic now or pay him a LOT more later.

    Check your owners manual for the timing belt service interval. The
    average is four to six year and about 60K miles.
     
    Apexmeister, Aug 15, 2003
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  12. Chris Garcia

    Chris Garcia Guest

    Apexmeister <> decided to join the
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    hm.. i posted the original post almost a month ago.. and had it done the
    next day.. but thanks for your concern :)

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    Chris Garcia, Aug 15, 2003
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  13. Chris Garcia

    Apexmeister Guest

    You can't check a timing belt to see if it's good. Most of them look
    very good visually but that's in no way an indicator that it will
    continute to do its job. Time is more the enemy than mileage is the
    enemy on a timing belt. The manufacturer always states a service (be
    it oil, transmission, timing belt, etc.) based on *time* and mileage,
    whichever comes first. I see a lot of car owners going by mileage and
    not paying attention to time recommendation. If the service was not
    based on time, then the service manual wouldn't mention it.
     
    Apexmeister, Aug 17, 2003
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  14. Chris Garcia

    John Ings Guest

    My mechanic keeps one from a GSR on a nail on his wall as an example.
    It looks absolutely perfect and factory new, except for the place
    where it broke in half.
     
    John Ings, Aug 17, 2003
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