Timing Belt/Water Pump Cost

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Telly, May 1, 2007.

  1. Telly

    Telly Guest

    Hello all,

    I have a 1994 Honda Accord EX sedan with 98,000 miles on it. I have owned
    it since it was new. I am going to replace the timing belt and water pump
    (both for the first time) and have been getting estimates from local shops.
    The estimates to do this work have varied widely, and I do understand and
    appreciate the concept that work done by a quality shop may cost me more
    money.

    Having said all that, can anyone give me an idea as to what a reasonable
    estimate for this work would be so I have something to go by? If it
    matters, I live in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area. Thank you in advance.
     
    Telly, May 1, 2007
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  2. Telly

    the phelper Guest


    Dealer will probably charge 700 to 800 I think...
     
    the phelper, May 1, 2007
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  3. Telly

    Eric Guest

    Whichever shop you use, make sure that they are using OE parts and Honda's
    antifreeze. Some shops will try to up their profit by using cheap parts.
    These either don't fit well or don't last like OE. Another variable is
    which parts are replaced. For example, some shops will replace the
    tensioner bearings as well as the cam, crank, balance shaft, and valve cover
    seals. Other shops will just replace the timing belt and water pump and
    leave the rest alone. The merits, or lack thereof, of either approach have
    already been thoroughly discussed on this group. Search through the old
    posts at http://groups.google.com

    Eric
     
    Eric, May 1, 2007
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    G-Man Guest

    $600 is about right if done correctly.

    G-Man
     
    G-Man, May 1, 2007
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  5. Telly

    bearman Guest

    I recently got a a new timing belt, water pump, drive belts, and timing
    belt tensioner at my dealer for $681.
     
    bearman, May 1, 2007
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  6. Telly

    Jeff Guest

    $700 is way to much to pay for that. you can actually do it yourself and
    save all that. there are also very good shops that will charge alot less
    than that and still do the job right. you can buy the parts yourself and pay
    them for the labor. i would look for one of those.

    -jeff
     
    Jeff, May 5, 2007
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    nerdwizard Guest

    Changed my own, on my VTech engines, and ALWAYS do the kit of tensioner
    with belt, plus, water pump, Thermostat, and all belts and hoses.

    I'll spend about $160.00 for the parts, and got them for two of my most
    recent cars at the Central Auto Parts store, Aloma Avenue (SR426),
    Goldenrod, near my home in Casselberry, Seminole County, Florida.
    They sold me a $111.00 kit of tensioner and timing belt. Had the

    It is North of Orlando, the megapolis that is an octopus in Orange
    County. I know, TMI... But, the local Honda dealers charge around $600
    just to do the tensioner, belt and Water Pump. That includes
    antifreeze. I trust Courtesy Honda absolutely, if I want to spend the
    $600 and let them do it.

    But, I have been a mechanic and also have worked on the line, since 1964
    (20+years in the USAF). So, I already have both; the tools, and the
    'feel' for working on machines.

    I use genuine antifreeze and cut it myself. All A/F is supposed to meet
    Federal specifications, and be interchangeable. Never had a problem
    with Prestone or any other I have mixed. The only fluid I DO insist to
    use from Honda is the Power Steering Lubricant!

    But, I was born in St. Paul, in 1946. Relatives report similar pricing
    there.

    The job takes me about 8 hours, with lots of coffee breaks. Biggest
    part of the work is removing the crank bolt! Honda uses Anaerobic Thread
    locking compound. You might know it as Lock Tite. The crank bolt is
    then torqued to about 360 Foot/Pounds of torque.
     
    nerdwizard, May 8, 2007
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  8. The cause of the ungodly tight bolt is still controversial - there isn't any
    sign of lock-tite on the threads when I've looked - but there is no doubt
    the bolt is way tighter than it needs to be. A Big Honkin' Mama impact
    driver is indispensible. Accept no substitutes, like the Wimpy Slacker Dude
    socket wrench ;-)

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 9, 2007
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  9. Telly

    Eric Guest

    That's interesting. The factory service manual for my Civic specs 119
    ft-lbs for the torque on the crank pulley bolt. It also states that engine
    oil should be used on the threads. Moreover, in all of the years that I
    worked on Hondas, I've never come across any trace of Loctite on the
    threads.

    Eric
     
    Eric, May 10, 2007
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  10. Telly

    Telly Guest

    Hey, thanks for all the responses to my original post!

    I had my timing belt and water pump replaced last week. They quoted me $600
    for this and then added another $20 for a "drive belt" they said I needed
    once they got in there.

    I ended up getting a 10% discount for being a long time customer so my total
    for all this came to $560 including tax.

    I feel better now that I've had it done.
     
    Telly, May 10, 2007
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    jim beam Guest

    dude, this is usenet. reality is that the bolts are crazy-tight to
    remove, but the re-tightening torque is as you say.
     
    jim beam, May 10, 2007
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