Tire Gauge?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elle Navorski, Jan 22, 2005.

  1. Elle Navorski

    WaterWatcher Guest

    I also use an AccuTire bought at Sears for $8 on sale. It works fine. My
    old dial type ceased to be accurate when I dropped it, and my pencil types
    never were accurate. YMMV

    WW
     
    WaterWatcher, Jan 23, 2005
    #21
  2. Elle Navorski

    Guest Guest

    Most guages now have a long recess in the chuck to let it fit more
    easily over the tire valve.

    All electronic tire guages are highly accurate, virtually dead-on, and
    are cheap from places like AutoZone, Pep Boys, Checker/Shuck's/Kragen,
    and Wal-mart.

    Pencil-type guages are the most rugged, provided they're made of metal,
    but some are chrome plated, and you can't always check with a magnet
    because many good guages are made of brass rather than steel. Plastic
    guages are prone to cracking where the chuck fits into the tube if the
    chuck is pressed in rather than screwed on.

    Dial guages can be as accurate as pencil guages, but when Consumer
    Reports last tested guages, in 2/1993, all of the least-accurate guages
    (off by +- 4 PSI average) were of the dial type, and no pencil-type
    guage erred more than +- 2 PSI. The most accurate pencil-type guages
    have shims at the end of their coil spring for calibration.

    Some good brands of mechanical guages are Schrader, Acme (not the
    Company that sold junk to Wiley E. Coyote), NAPA, Tru-Flate, and Camel.

    Some tire dealers, like Discount Tire, give out OK pencil-type guages
    for free.
     
    Guest, Jan 23, 2005
    #22
  3. Elle Navorski

    Guest Guest

    Most guages now have a long recess in the chuck to let it fit more
    easily over the tire valve.

    All electronic tire guages are highly accurate, virtually dead-on, and
    are cheap from places like AutoZone, Pep Boys, Checker/Shuck's/Kragen,
    and Wal-mart.

    Pencil-type guages are the most rugged, provided they're made of metal,
    but some are chrome plated, and you can't always check with a magnet
    because many good guages are made of brass rather than steel. Plastic
    guages are prone to cracking where the chuck fits into the tube if the
    chuck is pressed in rather than screwed on.

    Dial guages can be as accurate as pencil guages, but when Consumer
    Reports last tested guages, in 2/1993, all of the least-accurate guages
    (off by +- 4 PSI average) were of the dial type, and no pencil-type
    guage erred more than +- 2 PSI. The most accurate pencil-type guages
    have shims at the end of their coil spring for calibration.

    Some good brands of mechanical guages are Schrader, Acme (not the
    Company that sold junk to Wiley E. Coyote), NAPA, Tru-Flate, and Camel.

    Some tire dealers, like Discount Tire, give out OK pencil-type guages
    for free.
     
    Guest, Jan 23, 2005
    #23
  4. If you take a dial guage apart it becomes obvious how to recalibrate it.
    There's a
    cog there, push it to the far end so that it unlaches from the gear, turn
    the spring
    to the next tooth, and let the cog re-engage. Repeat until it's accurate
    again.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 23, 2005
    #24
  5. If you take a dial guage apart it becomes obvious how to recalibrate it.
    There's a
    cog there, push it to the far end so that it unlaches from the gear, turn
    the spring
    to the next tooth, and let the cog re-engage. Repeat until it's accurate
    again.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 23, 2005
    #25
  6. Elle Navorski

    Sparky Guest

    The Snap-On one is like this (virtually never leaks) and is made of
    brass as well.
    That's a long time ago, dude.
    But don't the stick type guages lend themselves more easily to being
    misread (which can make the reading way off)?
     
    Sparky, Jan 23, 2005
    #26
  7. Elle Navorski

    Sparky Guest

    The Snap-On one is like this (virtually never leaks) and is made of
    brass as well.
    That's a long time ago, dude.
    But don't the stick type guages lend themselves more easily to being
    misread (which can make the reading way off)?
     
    Sparky, Jan 23, 2005
    #27
  8. Elle Navorski

    HLS Guest

    That isn't quite accurate, Daniel. The stick type gauges have a
    considerable friction component which a decent Bourdon tube gauge
    will not have. The friction in a stick type gauge can vary a lot with
    moisture, temperature, wear, mechanical deformation, etc. The Bourdon type
    has its weaknesses too, I'll admit.

    I have not seen a good quality stick type gauge in a long time, and have
    certainly looked for one. Paid rather dearly for a supposedly good tractor
    type gauge (because it is supposed to be resistant to water which is common
    in tractor tires), and it wasn't very good either.

    These little cheapo stick type gauges you pick up for a few dollars at parts
    stores or Walmart are about as accurate and dependable as Stari Arbat
    watches.
     
    HLS, Jan 23, 2005
    #28
  9. Elle Navorski

    HLS Guest

    That isn't quite accurate, Daniel. The stick type gauges have a
    considerable friction component which a decent Bourdon tube gauge
    will not have. The friction in a stick type gauge can vary a lot with
    moisture, temperature, wear, mechanical deformation, etc. The Bourdon type
    has its weaknesses too, I'll admit.

    I have not seen a good quality stick type gauge in a long time, and have
    certainly looked for one. Paid rather dearly for a supposedly good tractor
    type gauge (because it is supposed to be resistant to water which is common
    in tractor tires), and it wasn't very good either.

    These little cheapo stick type gauges you pick up for a few dollars at parts
    stores or Walmart are about as accurate and dependable as Stari Arbat
    watches.
     
    HLS, Jan 23, 2005
    #29
  10. It is quite accurate as stated. Good gauges are better than bad gauges,
    period. There's no manufactured product that MBAs can't entice the Chinese
    to make a little cheaper and a little shittier.
    Nevertheless, they exist. I own a few.
    No debate there!

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 23, 2005
    #30
  11. It is quite accurate as stated. Good gauges are better than bad gauges,
    period. There's no manufactured product that MBAs can't entice the Chinese
    to make a little cheaper and a little shittier.
    Nevertheless, they exist. I own a few.
    No debate there!

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 23, 2005
    #31
  12. For the archives, along with others' reports:

    I checked Autozone's, Pep Boys', and Wal-Mart's selection. I ended up with
    a dial gage with 1-psi increments, ranging from 0 to 70 psi, fairly easy to
    read, with purge valve and large-headed chuck. The large chuck makes all
    the difference: I can fit it on my tires' valve stem, with no leakage, very
    easily. It "remembers" the pressure, so when you remove it, the last
    pressure reading still shows. (Press the purge valve, and it returns to
    zero.) The gage is made by Campbell-Hausfeld in China. It retailed for
    about $13. Pep Boys wanted about $4 more for a comparable gage.

    I just tried it out, and it makes life *a lot* easier. I don't need valve
    extensions to use it easily. I'm keeping it.

    Dunno how the calibration will last, of course, but I appreciate the many
    other posts that talk about this.

    My tires seem to lose about 2 psi a month, summer and winter. Of course I
    only check after the car has been sitting all night. I try to keep them at
    about 28-28.5 psi on my 1991 Honda Civic LX, 160k miles. This is above the
    spec of 26 psi, but I am experimenting, per many posts in the archives on
    overinflating tires a bit, at the sacrifice of a smoother ride but better
    mileage.

    Thanks folks for all the input. It's a seemingly rinky-dink thing but I've
    never had significant uneven wear on this car's tires, and hopefully,
    following the protocol above, I never will.
     
    Elle Navorski, Jan 23, 2005
    #32
  13. For the archives, along with others' reports:

    I checked Autozone's, Pep Boys', and Wal-Mart's selection. I ended up with
    a dial gage with 1-psi increments, ranging from 0 to 70 psi, fairly easy to
    read, with purge valve and large-headed chuck. The large chuck makes all
    the difference: I can fit it on my tires' valve stem, with no leakage, very
    easily. It "remembers" the pressure, so when you remove it, the last
    pressure reading still shows. (Press the purge valve, and it returns to
    zero.) The gage is made by Campbell-Hausfeld in China. It retailed for
    about $13. Pep Boys wanted about $4 more for a comparable gage.

    I just tried it out, and it makes life *a lot* easier. I don't need valve
    extensions to use it easily. I'm keeping it.

    Dunno how the calibration will last, of course, but I appreciate the many
    other posts that talk about this.

    My tires seem to lose about 2 psi a month, summer and winter. Of course I
    only check after the car has been sitting all night. I try to keep them at
    about 28-28.5 psi on my 1991 Honda Civic LX, 160k miles. This is above the
    spec of 26 psi, but I am experimenting, per many posts in the archives on
    overinflating tires a bit, at the sacrifice of a smoother ride but better
    mileage.

    Thanks folks for all the input. It's a seemingly rinky-dink thing but I've
    never had significant uneven wear on this car's tires, and hopefully,
    following the protocol above, I never will.
     
    Elle Navorski, Jan 23, 2005
    #33
  14. Elle Navorski

    y_p_w Guest

    I remember when a Parker Tru-Flate was a quality product. A bit
    difficult to use, but generally accurate.
    Where does one find a "quality" one then? Many of the dial-type
    or digital readout gauges tend to be more accurate than the easy
    to find pen-type gauges.
     
    y_p_w, Jan 24, 2005
    #34
  15. Elle Navorski

    y_p_w Guest

    I remember when a Parker Tru-Flate was a quality product. A bit
    difficult to use, but generally accurate.
    Where does one find a "quality" one then? Many of the dial-type
    or digital readout gauges tend to be more accurate than the easy
    to find pen-type gauges.
     
    y_p_w, Jan 24, 2005
    #35
  16. Elle Navorski

    TeGGer® Guest


    I have three tire gauges:
    A $5 El Cheapo metal pen-type with a plastic plunger
    An expensive all-metal pen-type that's 40 years old
    A $30 dial-type that's new and has been coddled since I opened the package.

    All three read within a pound of each other.
     
    TeGGer®, Jan 24, 2005
    #36
  17. Elle Navorski

    TeGGer® Guest


    I have three tire gauges:
    A $5 El Cheapo metal pen-type with a plastic plunger
    An expensive all-metal pen-type that's 40 years old
    A $30 dial-type that's new and has been coddled since I opened the package.

    All three read within a pound of each other.
     
    TeGGer®, Jan 24, 2005
    #37
  18. Elle Navorski

    Guest Guest

    True, but the results were so consistent that I doubt they've changed
    much over the years. Their previous evaluation was published around
    2/1987.
    They are harder to read than dial and digital guages, but I don't see
    how they could be misread by more than 1 PSI, and that's only when the
    markings are in 2 PSI increments.
     
    Guest, Jan 24, 2005
    #38
  19. Elle Navorski

    Guest Guest

    True, but the results were so consistent that I doubt they've changed
    much over the years. Their previous evaluation was published around
    2/1987.
    They are harder to read than dial and digital guages, but I don't see
    how they could be misread by more than 1 PSI, and that's only when the
    markings are in 2 PSI increments.
     
    Guest, Jan 24, 2005
    #39
  20. Elle Navorski

    y_p_w Guest

    However - my experience is that they don't always shoot to the same
    point every time - even the good ones.
     
    y_p_w, Jan 24, 2005
    #40
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