tire recommendations

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Milleron, Oct 11, 2006.

  1. Milleron

    Milleron Guest

    I'll soon be replacing the OEM Bridgestone Turanzas on my '03 Accord
    V6. The tread life and fuel economy they've given have been
    outstanding, but the handling leaves something to be desired. For
    example, I've found myself slowing to 60 mph in strong, gusting
    crosswinds while other drivers, even in smaller cars, keep going
    65-70.

    Fuel economy (rolling resistance, I guess) is the most important tire
    quality to me, but I'd be willing to sacrifice a little in that
    category for somewhat better handling.

    What's my best choice currently?

    Ron
     
    Milleron, Oct 11, 2006
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  2. Milleron

    Art Guest

    Personally, I think you are making a mistake considering rolling resistance
    your most important quality. Handling and stopping should be number one.
    Heat resistance probably next.

    You might want to check Consumer Reports at your local library for some
    ratings in the last year or 2. Michelin MXV4 plus are good but expensive.
    Also http://www.tirerack.com/tires/reviews/MenuServlet?search=surveyComments
     
    Art, Oct 11, 2006
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  3. Milleron

    Dave L Guest

    I'll also have to say wet traction is important as well. Depending on where
    you live, look at the snow rating. As Art mentioned, Tirerack is an
    excelletn website. Go to their main page:
    http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp and start by searching for all tires for
    your car. Then look at the charts to compare the surveys and reviews to
    decide which you like. The Michelin MXV4 are expensive but there are better
    and cheaper ones out there - at least for my '05 Accord. Mine came with the
    MXV4 as OEM and I am not impressed with them at all! I will definately but
    a different set. Michelins are expensive to begin with - but their Pilots
    are cheaper and better than the MXV4. I've also had good luck with
    Bridgestone Potenzas in the past.

    -Dave
     
    Dave L, Oct 11, 2006
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  4. Milleron

    AZ Nomad Guest

    The bottom of the line bridgestones on your accord were the cheapest crap
    honda (and/or the dealer) would get to keep you from driving on your rims.
    *anything* you buy will be a huge improvement. I wouldn't go for the "best"
    in any category as they'll be other tradeoffs that aren't worth it.


    Stay away from the cheapest junk possible and you'll do fine.
     
    AZ Nomad, Oct 11, 2006
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  5. Milleron

    Nasty Guest


    I'd strongly recommend round ones.
     
    Nasty, Oct 11, 2006
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  6. Nokian WR. The best tire made.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 11, 2006
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  7. Milleron

    Mike Smith Guest

    I have MXV4s on my '03 Passat, and I'm not thrilled with them either.
    Not the best handling, and not great in snow/wet. I've been thinking
    about Pilots to replace them as well, or perhaps Pirelli P Zero Nero
    M+S. I too have had Potenzas in the past (on an '87 Stanza) and liked
    them very much.
     
    Mike Smith, Oct 11, 2006
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  8. Milleron

    Doug B Guest

    According to Consumer Reports (November 2005), Michelin "X" is top-rated
    for noise, rolling resistance, braking and cornering, but only fair in
    snow & ice, and tread life is average. They also are only available from
    shopping clubs (e.g., Sams Club or Costco). #1 overall is the Goodyear
    Assurance TripleTred, though its rolling resistance isn't quite as good.
     
    Doug B, Oct 11, 2006
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  9. Milleron

    Dan Beaton Guest

    Milleron () writes:
    ....
    ....
    Both overinflation and underinflation can lead to cross wind sensitivity,
    but there are a lot of other factors. The size or weight of the car is
    not a particularly important factor. That said, small, light cars are
    often inexpensive and lacking in the thoughtful engineering that helps
    car stability. I would expect a V6 Accord to be very stable, even with
    original tires, unless there is something wrong mechanically.
    Dan

    (This account is not used for email.)
     
    Dan Beaton, Oct 11, 2006
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  10. Milleron

    Dave L Guest

    The Tirerack survey is dismal when you compare it to the high cost. The
    Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S is rated the highest. Bridgestone Potenza RE92 is
    bad also. However, I had the Potenza RE950 on my old Prelude and they were
    great 3 season but snow traction had much to be desired.

    -Dave
     
    Dave L, Oct 12, 2006
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  11. Milleron

    Art Guest

    Consumer Reports rated tires this month.
     
    Art, Oct 12, 2006
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  12. Milleron

    pj Guest

    I bought a set of TripleTreads for my '04 Accord 4-banger. I hated the
    original Michelins - they had very little traction, I was glad to get rid of
    them. Honda should be ashamed for putting such trash on their cars.

    So far, the only downside I've noticed on the TT's (other than original
    cost) was that the handling wasn't quite as crisp as the original Michelins
    (it was the only thing I liked about the M's).
    The TT's have a slight delay when you make a turn. When I first got them it
    annoyed me, but either I've gotten used to the delay or it has gotten
    better; I don't notice it anymore. I haven't had a chance to try them on
    snow or ice yet.
     
    pj, Oct 12, 2006
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  13. Milleron

    Doug B Guest

    Apparently it won't reach their website for a while; the most recent
    tire rating at consumerreports.org is November 2005.
     
    Doug B, Oct 12, 2006
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  14. I have TripleTreds on my 2000 Accord and love the tires. I boosted
    pressure to 32 psi and was very pleased with the handling and
    responsiveness. I drive 100 miles per day commuting in all kinds of
    weather. I second the poster who said rolling resistance shouldn't be
    primary concern -- I want traction, but then, I live in Ohio...

    Full disclosure: I work for Goodyear. My comment is offered in the
    spirit of assistance.
    SDW
     
    seanwilliams58, Oct 12, 2006
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  15. Milleron

    Doug B Guest

    Has anyone tried filling their tires with nitrogen instead of compressed
    air? It's supposed to make tires last longer, run cooler and lose
    pressure more slowly. No idea what it costs, though.
     
    Doug B, Oct 12, 2006
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  16. Milleron

    Nasty Guest

    Well given that the atmosphere is about 76% nitrogen already I never saw the
    return in spending money for the other 24%. Your mileage may vary of course.
     
    Nasty, Oct 12, 2006
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  17. Milleron

    oklaman Guest

    I have the Goodyear triple treads and I have been very pleased. I don't
    work for Goodyear.

    there are two versions of the TT ( I can't remember the names). you need to
    get the more expensive one. I don't think the lesser one was rated too
    highly.

    I'll soon be replacing the OEM Bridgestone Turanzas on my '03 Accord
    V6. The tread life and fuel economy they've given have been
    outstanding, but the handling leaves something to be desired. For
    example, I've found myself slowing to 60 mph in strong, gusting
    crosswinds while other drivers, even in smaller cars, keep going
    65-70.

    Fuel economy (rolling resistance, I guess) is the most important tire
    quality to me, but I'd be willing to sacrifice a little in that
    category for somewhat better handling.

    What's my best choice currently?

    Ron
     
    oklaman, Oct 13, 2006
    #17
  18. Milleron

    Mike Smith Guest

    It's what's in the other 24% that matters. It includes water vapor and
    carbon dioxide, whose pressures vary more with temperature than
    nitrogen, and also oxygen, which is more chemically reactive than
    nitrogen. Granted, these differences aren't enough to make me want to
    spend extra money to fill my tires, but the differences are there to
    some extent.
     
    Mike Smith, Oct 13, 2006
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  19. Milleron

    Nasty Guest

    Is this where I say "Duh!"?

    <It includes water vapor and
    Yes it does. That's why it's CALLED the other 24%.

    I think you just solidified my case.

    If somebody wants to go off the deep end and do something extravagant
    filling their tires there's always helium. It's inert, resists temperature
    changes well, and should make the car go faster because of its lift
    characteristics. Then again too small a car with too large tires my tend to
    float. But that could be kinda cool too...

    Again, YMMV.
     
    Nasty, Oct 13, 2006
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  20. Milleron

    Doug B Guest

    Was one of the names "Assurance"? I was quoted a price of $560 for
    four Goodyear Assurance TripleTred P205-65x15s (mounted, balanced, sales
    tax and disposal charge). I can't imagine paying more for a set of
    tires unless I was planning to race.
     
    Doug B, Oct 13, 2006
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