TPMS Mystery Solved!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by alfred, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. alfred

    alfred Guest

    Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the
    dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue
    for the TPMS light to come on during cold weather on the Accords.

    Theres nothing wrong with it, its just more sensitive than maybe some other
    cars TPMS systems according to the Service Manager at Honda. He said that if
    the system was really malfunctioning there would be another light for that,
    but the one I saw was just for the pressure drop. I had a few pounds of air
    put in the tires, had the car washed and vacuumed and off I went. He also
    checked everything including nails in the tires etc and everything was okay.
    I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all
    live in warmer climates I don't know.
     
    alfred, Jan 26, 2008
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  2. | Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the
    | dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue
    | for the TPMS light to come on during cold weather on the Accords.
    |
    | Theres nothing wrong with it, its just more sensitive than maybe some
    other
    | cars TPMS systems according to the Service Manager at Honda. He said that
    if
    | the system was really malfunctioning there would be another light for
    that,
    | but the one I saw was just for the pressure drop. I had a few pounds of
    air
    | put in the tires, had the car washed and vacuumed and off I went. He also
    | checked everything including nails in the tires etc and everything was
    okay.
    | I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all
    | live in warmer climates I don't know.
    |

    When I picked up my car the sales rep mentioned that this might happen...
    hasn't, but at least I know it might happen.

    John
     
    John Grossbohlin, Jan 26, 2008
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  3. Just like it says in the manual.

    You DID read the owner's manual, right? The TPMS light comes on when it
    detects a pressure drop beyond a certain point. At that point you stop
    and measure the air in your tires, discover that the TPMS is correct,
    and add air to your tires to the factory specified pressure--and the
    TPMS light goes out, right?

    Maybe everyone else read his owner's manual.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 27, 2008
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  4. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    amazing - a tire pressure monitor that might work.
     
    jim beam, Jan 27, 2008
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  5. alfred

    TomP Guest

    Tire pressure changes approx. 1psi for every 10 degs F.

    That light means the tire pressure IS low! Cold weather or not, when the flat
    tire light comes on.

    CHECK THE AIR PRESSURE IN ALL THE TIRES... And, don't forget to check the
    spare.

    This mandated safety feature (thank you Ford and Firestone) IS probably more
    useful than airbags, in that, it has the ability of PREVENTION of a crash.
    Rather than playing defense after (or during) the fact.
     
    TomP, Jan 27, 2008
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  6. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    hey - it's all ford, not firestone. and it's nothing to do with air
    pressure. there's absolutely no way a vehicle should roll just because
    it has a flat - regardless of how it happens. it's a fundamental ford
    design problem. and they knew it. anyone buying the b.s. about it
    being a tire problem is both missing the engineering fundamentals and
    being politically naive.
     
    jim beam, Jan 27, 2008
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  7. alfred

    motsco_ Guest

    --------------------

    Yep. When attacked, always gather the lawyers in a circle . . . . (and
    find someone else to blame).

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Jan 27, 2008
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  8. alfred

    TomP Guest

    Firestone will forever be attached to that fiasco, regardless of their
    innocence.

    And, any car can be tripped and caused to roll, given the right dynamics. If I
    recall many of these vehicles involved roll over crashes were also over (or
    incorrectly) loaded.

    Who's fault is that?
     
    TomP, Jan 27, 2008
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  9. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    ford. leaf spring rear, no lateral support like panhard rod, and that
    RIDICULOUS front suspension where the camber of the front wheel is fixed
    to the arc of the lower strut radius - that's a killer combination.
    cheap as hell though. and ford did their "cost of lawsuit vs. cost of
    manufacture" calculations and decided they'd proceed.

    since this is a honda forum, you show me a junkyard honda that's rolled.
    i visit junkyards regularly and have seen literally thousands of
    crashed hondas over the years. i can count on the fingers of one hand
    the hondas i've seen that have rolled, and even then, i'll bet that was
    because they were already in a ditch first. and when it's rolled, the
    roof doesn't collapse like ford. /that/ is why the exploder is a killer
    - not only does it roll, the roof collapses and crushes the occupants.
    ken lay was going to do time for enron? he never killed anyone. ford
    management? i'd have those assholes in the electric chair.
     
    jim beam, Jan 27, 2008
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  10. Jim, I've looked about, but can't find a 'definitive' site discussing
    the Explorer suspension failings. Got a good link?

    Thanks
     
    Greg Campbell, Jan 27, 2008
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  11. alfred

    jim beam Guest

    you'll have to look yourself on that - my comments are my opinion based
    on physical observation of the design which is as described.

    front suspension is:

    x----||

    where "x" is the pivot and "||" is the wheel.

    as the suspension member rotates about x, the camber of the wheel
    changes dramatically. not only does this cause issues with the amount
    of contact patch on the road [and therefore traction], it's a stability
    issue as it's changing the wheel's intersection point with the road.
     
    jim beam, Jan 27, 2008
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  12. What you had ON was the TPMS light or the "Lower Tire Pressure
    Indicator" light ?, I am asking because I had today the TPMS, and the
    user guide says this is a malfunction in the system, please could you
    confirm, thanks
     
    bernard.rosenzweig, Jan 31, 2008
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  13. alfred

    alfred Guest

    Yes, my light was the lower pressure light. Sounds like yours was the
    malfunction light for TPMS if it actually lit up as TPMS on the dash board.

    Al
     
    alfred, Feb 2, 2008
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  14. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    "Told you so" :)
    Peace,
    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Feb 3, 2008
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  15. alfred

    Polfus Guest

    What...are you actually suggesting that reading an owner's manual will
    prevent the TPMS light from activating?

    Because that would pretty much make you an idiot.

    Polfus
     
    Polfus, Feb 3, 2008
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