trouble shifting gears

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by shraddha.srivastav, Feb 15, 2007.

  1. I have a 98 Accord Ex with an automatic transmission. It has about
    115K miles on it. I have never had any problems with it but last
    week, without warning, my car seemed to have difficulty changing
    gears. When I accelerate it sounds like it is trying to change gears
    but is stuck and then will suddenly switch. It causes the car to jerk
    forward a little bit. When I come to a stop it jerks forward a little
    bit then too. Kind of feels like somone lightly rear-ended me. The
    next few days were without symptom. Then yesterday the problems
    started up again. Today they were worse. The "check engine" light
    came on today. Any ideas?
     
    shraddha.srivastav, Feb 15, 2007
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  2. shraddha.srivastav

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in @h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:


    Is this a four-cylinder or a V6?

    When was the last time the fluid was changed? What fluid was used?

    Take it to AutoZone to have the Check Engine light code read. Report that
    here.
     
    Tegger, Feb 15, 2007
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  3. 4-cylinder

    oil changed 1 month ago (Jan 12). Oil used was 10W30GTX

    going to auto zone now.
     
    shraddha.srivastav, Feb 15, 2007
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  4. auto zone closed for tonight. will go in the morning.
     
    shraddha.srivastav, Feb 15, 2007
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  5. foudn one open late. reading was "The PCM has detected an incorrect
    gear ratio condition." Didn't help much. Already knew that.
     
    shraddha.srivastav, Feb 15, 2007
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  6. shraddha.srivastav

    Eric Guest

    I believe that Tegger was asking about the transmission fluid and not the
    engine oil. Many folks have reported problems using non-Honda ATF and find
    that their problems go away once they put Honda's ATF into the transmission.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Feb 15, 2007
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  7. transmission fluid would make much more sense. it hasn't been changed
    in some time.

    i noticed when i went to auto zone that the RMP gauge doesn't fall
    back to zero when i am at a complete stop. it instead goes to 750.
    when i am accelerating/driving between 20-30mph it spikes to 3000+.
    it hasn't gone past 4000rpm. when the gears finally shift it falls
    back to between 1000-2000rmp. it drives better at around 40mph or
    higher.
     
    shraddha.srivastav, Feb 15, 2007
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  8. shraddha.srivastav

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in @a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


    WHAT WAS THE NUMERIC CODE? That's what I need! AZ's descriptions are often
    vague and incorrect.

    The code will be something like "P1709", or "P1884".

    Sounds like your transmission is slipping. Could be fatal, or could just be
    low/old/incorrect fluid. Check the fluid level, then get it changed (NOT
    "flushed") with genuine Honda ATF-Z1. It needs to be changed in three
    stages to get all of the old stuff out.
     
    Tegger, Feb 15, 2007
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  9. shraddha.srivastav

    Joe LaVigne Guest

    The only time your tachometer will read 0 RPM is when the engine is not
    running. It idles at about 700-800 RPM (when all is good).

    You may very well just need your tranny fluid changed. Drain and fill it
    3 times (drive for a week or so in between) with Honda ATF fluid (DO NOT
    use anything other than Honda).
     
    Joe LaVigne, Feb 15, 2007
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  10. P0730 was the numeric code.
     
    shraddha.srivastav, Feb 15, 2007
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  11. thanks! i never really paid attention to the tachometer before..
     
    shraddha.srivastav, Feb 15, 2007
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  12. shraddha.srivastav

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in


    AZ's description is incorrect, as usual. According to Honda, P0730 is:
    "Problem in Shift Control System".

    This means the Shift Control Solenoids or the Shift Valves are not being
    actuated correctly.

    This is most likely an electrical problem rather than old/incorrect
    fluid, which would also account for the suddenness of the onset of the
    problem.

    There are a number of electronic sensors used by the transmission's
    control unit (PCM). They can fail, as can the PCM itself. And the PCM
    has been known to fail on these, as have the Shift Control Solenoids
    themselves.

    You need to have a Honda dealer diagnose this situation for you. Do NOT
    go to an independent transmission shop unless they specialize in Hondas.

    You can also have the dealer check for Technical Service Bulletins
    (TSBs) regarding your symptoms. Sometimes there are known issues for
    which there is a prescribed fix. I've been unable to find any relevant
    TSBs, but then I don't have access to them all.

    And while you're at it, you might as well get the dealer to change the
    fluid. You're due for it anyway.
     
    Tegger, Feb 15, 2007
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