Trouble with Emission : HELP : 91 Civic Hatch

Discussion in 'Civic' started by santino, Sep 2, 2003.

  1. santino

    santino Guest

    I am in Massachusetts, where the emission laws are damn tough (okay...not as
    tough as CA....but tough enough!!).

    The car has 74K miles and it passed everything except the HC test (Higher
    hydrocarbon emissions - approx 25% higher than normal).

    The mechanic at the gas station who did the yearly inspection test told me
    that it needed a new air filter, new plugs and a PCV valve. I bought these
    parts and changed them over (even though the air filter & plugs were fairly
    new !!), excepting the PCV valve, as I don't have a deep socket 9/16" wrench
    (I'll get a socket for it tomorrow and try). I tried getting the PCV valve
    out with a 8" spanner wrench, but couldn't get the damn valve to come off
    (is it always this tight ?? anyone change one of these out ??).

    In any case, I am going to get a deep socket wrench and a longer driver and
    get the damn PCV valve out of there.

    I read in a Chilton Honda Civic service manual that says a mal-functioning
    PCV valve will make higher HC emissions.

    Right now I have "R" sticker on the inspection sticker area. The mechanic
    told me to change these things out (air filter, PCV valve & plugs) and come
    back and it should pass. Anyone think of anything else?? The inspection
    fee is $ 29 bucks in Mass, but on a R sticker is free for a first
    re-inspection. So, I want to be sure there is nothing more than this !!

    Thanks in advance for your response.

    Santino.
     
    santino, Sep 2, 2003
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  2. santino

    Bill Kapaun Guest

    Give it a good hard highway drive to heat up the oil and "boil off" any
    moisture etc. If it's getting due for an oil change go ahead and change it
    first.
     
    Bill Kapaun, Sep 2, 2003
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  3. santino

    Joseph Wind Guest

    You might need a new a Catalytic converter. I had to replace mine after
    134k miles. All the years before it passed easily under California
    emissions. Before replacing the CAT it read 600 over the max CO, after the
    new CAT was installed it was below the average.
     
    Joseph Wind, Sep 2, 2003
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  4. A new cat. won't change the HC as far as I know, cat is probably still oke,
    since all the other reading were oke.

    Wilfred
     
    Wilfred Smulders, Sep 2, 2003
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  5. santino

    santino Guest

    Joseph, Wilfred & Bill:

    Thanks for your response. I think Bill may be right. Joseph my CO reading
    is normal.

    Here is the summary of Emissions:

    HC GPM Reading 1.80 Limit 1.20 Result : FAIL

    CO GPM Reading 14.58 Limit 20.00 Result : PASS

    NOx GPM Reading 0.87 Limit 2.50 Result : PASS

    I just finished changing the PCV valve ; there was a lot of carbon deposit,
    was black going into it.

    I had the oil changed just 1,000 miles ago. I could change it if you think
    it will make a difference...only $ 10 bucks.

    Please, you guys, if you think of anything else, please let me know. This
    Civic runs great otherwise, I can't afford to part with it. It is a good
    poor man's car (which is what I am...we eat hand to mouth !!). They are
    really difficult here in Mass with inspections. I have one more chance
    before I take it in for a final inspection. I will try to drive an hour
    before the inspection, hope that cleans it up ; but if there is anything
    else, I'd appreciate it if you let me know.

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    santino
     
    santino, Sep 3, 2003
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