Trunk leaks in 1991 Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Mark, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Good morning.

    Water is leaking into the trunk of my 1991 Accord EX. The shop did the
    following:

    1. Verified that sunroof drains are not clogged.
    2. Quoted me $500 to replace all the taillights.

    It looks like I'll be taking over after step #1. :)

    Have any of you guys dealt with this problem? What is the recommended
    procedure for making the taillight area watertight again?

    Thanks
    -Mark
     
    Mark, Jan 13, 2007
    #1
  2. Mark

    Elle Guest

    Sounds like you heard this is a common problem for c. 1990
    Hondas. It is usually the gaskets used in and around the
    taillight housings that fail. If you're a little handy,
    fixing these is pretty easy. One may either (1) simply
    replace all the gaskets; or one may (2) disassemble, clean
    with water the old gaskets, apply a bead of good,
    temperature appropriate silicone IIRC caulking on both
    sides, and re-assemble.

    I did (2) a few years ago with my 91 Civic. No leaks since.

    Approach (1) is more expensive. Approach (2) is harder to
    clean up if and when the caulking has to be redone.

    You should try to confirm that the gaskets are the culprits,
    first, too. Any water in the taillight housings, for
    example?
     
    Elle, Jan 13, 2007
    #2
  3. Mark

    Elle Guest

    Sounds like you heard this is a common problem for c. 1990
    Hondas. It is usually the gaskets used in and around the
    taillight housings that fail. If you're a little handy,
    fixing these is pretty easy. One may either (1) simply
    replace all the gaskets; or one may (2) disassemble, clean
    with water the old gaskets, apply a bead of good,
    temperature appropriate silicone IIRC caulking on both
    sides, and re-assemble.

    I did (2) a few years ago with my 91 Civic. No leaks since.

    Approach (1) is more expensive. Approach (2) is harder to
    clean up if and when the caulking has to be redone.

    You should try to confirm that the gaskets are the culprits,
    first, too. Any water in the taillight housings, for
    example?
     
    Elle, Jan 13, 2007
    #3
  4. Mark

    Cousin It Guest

    I had the same problem on my 91 Accord and fixed it with a $5 tube of
    Silicone II caulk like Elle suggested. I also ran a bead down the seam in
    the gutter where the trunk and rear quarter panels come together. Haven't
    had a drop of water in the trunk since. A lot cheaper than the dealer's
    $500 solution.
     
    Cousin It, Jan 13, 2007
    #4
  5. Mark

    Cousin It Guest

    I had the same problem on my 91 Accord and fixed it with a $5 tube of
    Silicone II caulk like Elle suggested. I also ran a bead down the seam in
    the gutter where the trunk and rear quarter panels come together. Haven't
    had a drop of water in the trunk since. A lot cheaper than the dealer's
    $500 solution.
     
    Cousin It, Jan 13, 2007
    #5

  6. I tried just replacing the gaskets on my 90 accord and it did not seal
    off with new gaskets. I then used silicone with the new gaskets,
    sealed right off, no problems for about 5 years.

    Frank
     
    Frank Boettcher, Jan 15, 2007
    #6
  7. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Following a suggestion from several people, I removed the taillights
    and cleaned the gaskets and reinstalled them with a generous
    application of silicone caulk. This took care of the water that was
    leaking around the taillights.

    Unfortunately, I still have a small leak into the left rear corner of
    the trunk. I removed the side trim panel and discovered that
    the water is coming in around the edges of the ventilation outflow
    valve. Apparently water running down the side of the car gets
    underneath the bumper and finds its way in through this area.

    So my plan of attack is to remove the rear bumper, inspect
    the area around the outflow valve, and correct the leak with
    a new gasket and/or silicone caulk where the outflow valve
    is installed.

    Does that sound like a reasonable plan?

    Thanks
    -Mark
     
    Mark, Feb 19, 2007
    #7
  8. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Following a suggestion from several people, I removed the taillights
    and cleaned the gaskets and reinstalled them with a generous
    application of silicone caulk. This took care of the water that was
    leaking around the taillights.

    Unfortunately, I still have a small leak into the left rear corner of
    the trunk. I removed the side trim panel and discovered that
    the water is coming in around the edges of the ventilation outflow
    valve. Apparently water running down the side of the car gets
    underneath the bumper and finds its way in through this area.

    So my plan of attack is to remove the rear bumper, inspect
    the area around the outflow valve, and correct the leak with
    a new gasket and/or silicone caulk where the outflow valve
    is installed.

    Does that sound like a reasonable plan?

    Thanks
    -Mark
     
    Mark, Feb 19, 2007
    #8
  9. Mark

    Elle Guest

    Sure. I don't recollect this particular area leaking, so I'd
    double check as best I could first. OTOH, I think there have
    been a few odd sources reported here at times, in addition
    to the "usual suspects" (taillight gaskets).
     
    Elle, Feb 20, 2007
    #9
  10. Mark

    Elle Guest

    Sure. I don't recollect this particular area leaking, so I'd
    double check as best I could first. OTOH, I think there have
    been a few odd sources reported here at times, in addition
    to the "usual suspects" (taillight gaskets).
     
    Elle, Feb 20, 2007
    #10
  11. Mark

    Tegger Guest


    Speaking of odd leak sources... I still have that stupid one at the left-
    rear corner of the roof at the hatch.

    After a good rain, the first couple of right turns causes a little sprinkle
    of droplets to dribble out of the C-pillar molding and onto the windowsill.

    I've investigated as thoroughly as I could, resealing the roof seam at the
    ditch molding (removed hatch to get proper access), but still it leaks.
    It's not coming in through the windows and not being driven back from the
    windshield. It has GOT to be the roof ditch seam, but I'm damned if I can
    find the leak.

    Even when I drop the rear of the headliner, there's no rust trail anywhere
    that I can see, so I can't even trace it back anywhere that way. My next
    step is to remove the headliner entirely (in the spring) and drive around
    like that until I find out where it's coming from.
     
    Tegger, Feb 20, 2007
    #11
  12. Mark

    Tegger Guest


    Speaking of odd leak sources... I still have that stupid one at the left-
    rear corner of the roof at the hatch.

    After a good rain, the first couple of right turns causes a little sprinkle
    of droplets to dribble out of the C-pillar molding and onto the windowsill.

    I've investigated as thoroughly as I could, resealing the roof seam at the
    ditch molding (removed hatch to get proper access), but still it leaks.
    It's not coming in through the windows and not being driven back from the
    windshield. It has GOT to be the roof ditch seam, but I'm damned if I can
    find the leak.

    Even when I drop the rear of the headliner, there's no rust trail anywhere
    that I can see, so I can't even trace it back anywhere that way. My next
    step is to remove the headliner entirely (in the spring) and drive around
    like that until I find out where it's coming from.
     
    Tegger, Feb 20, 2007
    #12
  13. Mark

    Elle Guest

    Well that's darned annoying.

    Not to be too impertinent, but this is FAQ material, oh
    beloved(!) high lord of the unofficial Q page. ;-)
     
    Elle, Feb 20, 2007
    #13
  14. Mark

    Elle Guest

    Well that's darned annoying.

    Not to be too impertinent, but this is FAQ material, oh
    beloved(!) high lord of the unofficial Q page. ;-)
     
    Elle, Feb 20, 2007
    #14
  15. Mark

    Tegger Guest



    IF I EVER FIND IT!...it will make the FAQ page.

    Leaks are most annoying, you know?
     
    Tegger, Feb 20, 2007
    #15
  16. Mark

    Tegger Guest



    IF I EVER FIND IT!...it will make the FAQ page.

    Leaks are most annoying, you know?
     
    Tegger, Feb 20, 2007
    #16
  17. Mark

    Elle Guest

    I meant the topic of "trunk leaks" in general. :)
     
    Elle, Feb 20, 2007
    #17
  18. Mark

    Elle Guest

    I meant the topic of "trunk leaks" in general. :)
     
    Elle, Feb 20, 2007
    #18
  19. Mark

    Tegger Guest



    Oh. Well, one day...

    I did take pics of when I changed my taillight gaskets last fall, but
    haven't done anything with them yet.
     
    Tegger, Feb 20, 2007
    #19
  20. Mark

    Tegger Guest



    Oh. Well, one day...

    I did take pics of when I changed my taillight gaskets last fall, but
    haven't done anything with them yet.
     
    Tegger, Feb 20, 2007
    #20
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