Turning Rotors: a case study...

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Stephen H, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. Stephen H

    jim beam Guest

    diffusion, the migration of carbon atoms in the iron matrix, happens
    well below red heat. but /significant/ diffusion, recrystallization,
    graphite flake/nodule growth, or other phase changes, doesn't. and if
    you're trying to argue that a brake disk is martensitic, you need to
    think again.

    if your gm disk warps in 15k, you need to consider other factors. for
    honda, elastic distortion caused by incorrect wheel lug torquing has a
    huge influence. but if it's the disk alone, things like bad
    post-casting heat treatments, uneven material thickness, etc. can
    influence whether a disk stays true at high temperatures. the most
    likely item is cutting corners on heat treatment and reducing heat soak
    time.

    my money's on incorrect lug torquing.
    i was a vehicle mechanic for 5 years and also have a materials degree.
    is that good enough?
     
    jim beam, Dec 28, 2005
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  2. Stephen H

    karl Guest

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    TOPIC: Turning Rotors: a case study...
    http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.honda/browse_thread/thread/19594af6aa37ae67
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    In two messages you wrote that "centering" the disks is
    important, and if this is not done properly it will give
    "inconsistent results." This is what I was responding
    to. Can you read? The relevant excerpts are right here.
    (I had written "coaxiality" when I meant centricity. I
    have corrected this already.)

    Correcting you, I wrote, "Relevant is that the machined
    surface and the mounting surface are perpendicular to
    the axis." Can you read? You do not "need to read around
    a bit more," it's right here.

    Pulsing "because of momentum differences due to the
    mass of the caliper vs. the piston," and "the mass on
    each side is the same and there's little net effect."
    Rubbish!
     
    karl, Dec 29, 2005
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  3. Stephen H

    doug Guest

    Apparently not - it hasn't helped you to do the job correctly. Like I said
    before, there's one in every group. Although Dave Kelsen may once again take
    issue with that.
     
    doug, Dec 29, 2005
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  4. Stephen H

    jim beam Guest

    karl wrote:
    really? why? i'd love to see your explanation.
     
    jim beam, Dec 30, 2005
    #44
  5. Stephen H

    jim beam Guest

    so why don't you make a technical rebuttal? share your superior
    knowledge.
     
    jim beam, Dec 30, 2005
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  6. Stephen H

    doug Guest

    It took you 12 days to come up with your lame-ass text book reply. Yet you
    still don't get it - you're trying to argue a point that many people have
    already demonstrated to you that you are wrong about. I can't be bothered to
    repeat their - and my - valid examples and explanations. Perhaps if you took
    the time to review the threads in this post and you might begin to
    understand what I mean. I doubt it, but you never know. As I said, you ARE
    the one.
     
    doug, Dec 30, 2005
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  7. Stephen H

    doug Guest

    karl wrote:
    Karl - he's not worth the time or effort to try and discuss this with. But I
    think you already know this ;-)

    doug
     
    doug, Dec 30, 2005
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