UAW forced to be paid as a Southern Foreign factory worker.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Rock Hardson, Dec 20, 2008.

  1. Rock Hardson

    Rock Hardson Guest

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/19/AR2008121903856.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR

    The article states that the southern japanese factory worker was offered to
    join the union bringing wages on par to its northern American worker but
    they opted to stay bare foot and po' for japanese pennies. How STUPID can
    people be! If they had simply joined the union they would be getting the
    same exact pay and benefits as the northern worker living a higher standard
    of life and there would have been an even playing field for all manufactures
    from the start. For years it has been said that the Japanese choose the
    southern worker simply to take advantage of there ignorance. I guess the
    article proves they were right about that one. Now the northern worker will
    be forced to be dragged down to the level of pay of the southern worker. Its
    a simple question of is everyone on board to make a lot of money or will a
    segment of the community just drag others down to make a lesser amount of
    money???
     
    Rock Hardson, Dec 20, 2008
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  2. Rock Hardson

    E. Meyer Guest

    If the Southern workers had joined the union and tried to force Detroit
    style pay and benefit packages, then the Japanese plants would all be in
    Mexico (just like many GM and Mercedes plants already are).
     
    E. Meyer, Dec 20, 2008
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  3. Rock Hardson

    septicman Guest

    I make it a point to NEVER buy any car, new or used, assembled by UAW
    dumb-**** overpaid slob morons...

    There is not a single UAW leak in possession of a skill set worth
    their extortionistic wage and benefit package. Back in the sixties,
    8th. grade dropouts all over the country would wind up getting $25/hr.
    to slap hubcaps on Fords and Chevys. **** the UAW and anyone who
    supports them.
     
    septicman, Dec 20, 2008
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  4. Rock Hardson

    Guest Guest

    Stupid.... interesting term that could be applied to many different groups
    of people...

    Stupid... as in customers continuing to pay prices that have been driven
    high by over-priced wage packages for union workers? Come on... this is
    assembly line work... put tab A in slot B... what rolls off the end of the
    line could be a toaster, a car or Mattels latest toy... It ain't rocket
    science.

    Someone is signing the cheque for this, doofus.... and that would be the
    consumer...

    Where I live, we have a labour shortage.... our local McDonalds is offering
    $13 per hour.... I wonder how many 99 cent burgers you need to sell to make
    that idea profitable?

    I'm sure that all of your fellow Americans will love the hell out of you
    calling them "ignorant".
     
    Guest, Dec 20, 2008
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  5. Rock Hardson

    Rock Hardson Guest

    I got news for you, japanese are already in Mexico.
    The US is there because of the Bush/Clinton NAFTA sellout/New world Order
    BS.
     
    Rock Hardson, Dec 20, 2008
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  6. Rock Hardson

    Rock Hardson Guest

    I make it a point to NEVER buy any car, new or used, assembled by UAW
    dumb-**** overpaid slob morons...

    There is not a single UAW leak in possession of a skill set worth
    their extortionistic wage and benefit package. Back in the sixties,
    8th. grade dropouts all over the country would wind up getting $25/hr.
    to slap hubcaps on Fords and Chevys. **** the UAW and anyone who
    supports them.

    Yeh...and its just fine to that Japanese CEO get billions in return for
    paying workers $14 and hour to screw on a bolt over and over and over again
    8 hours a day. You try doing that and see if you don't go crazy. If you have
    a job doing crazy mind draining activity at least make it worth your while
    and get paid for it. And I bet if your father was putting bread on your
    table for screwing on a bolt, you would have no problem at all buying
    American would you?
     
    Rock Hardson, Dec 20, 2008
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  7. Rock Hardson

    Gosi Guest

    The quality control of Toyota is done by each worker.
    If someone notices that something is missing from a former step they
    pull the chain and stop the line.
    In the beginning the line was stopping all the time.
    Then the quality improved and the line hardly ever needs to be
    stopped.

    In GM they did not dare to do it so inspection is done after the car
    has been sold and the customer finds something wrong.
    First they deny the problem and then the customer gets angry and
    stoppes buying GM cars.

    That is a major difference and I have been waiting to see how long
    this could go on like this.

    It is very exciting to see that GM is finally dead and the prolonged
    funeral is taking place over the next months.

    RIP
     
    Gosi, Dec 20, 2008
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  8. Rock Hardson

    Rock Hardson Guest

    What do you know about fellow Americans when you would rather see your
    dollars go to Japan rater than keep it here providing a stronger US economy.
    I bet you are one who would rather see 100s of thousands om AMERICANS lose
    jobs rather than bail out the US auto industry.
     
    Rock Hardson, Dec 20, 2008
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  9. Rock Hardson

    septicman Guest

    The UAW is living proof that one does not need to invest in oneself in
    terms of high skills and knowledge. That, in and of itself, is
    anathema to capitalism.
     
    septicman, Dec 20, 2008
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  10. Rock Hardson

    e.meyer Guest

    Yes they are already in Mexico, and if the workers in the Southern US
    states had sold out to the UAW, all those Southern US factories would
    be gone, or never built in the first place.

    You are obviously a union troll.
     
    e.meyer, Dec 20, 2008
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  11. Rock Hardson

    Guest Guest

    I would rather keep my dollar HERE making for a stronger Canadian economy
    you self centered bastard...

    As for my dollars going to Japan? Two Fords, a Harley Davidson and a holiday
    trailer made in fucking Colorado are parked in my driveway and you have the
    temerity to speak untruths???? My money goes to Japan? ****... even kittens
    eventually open their eyes... FWIW, I'm a tech in a Ford store - in order to
    pay those overpriced whining bastuhds, Ford has re-engineered the labour
    rates that techs are paid for warranty repairs.... raped is about the best
    word you could use there.

    And now you are changing the tune you are playing... we have gone from
    getting paid an appropriate wage to "losing jobs". The Japs are paying
    assembly line labour pretty much what assembly line labour is worth... to
    pretend it is worth more only drives the cost of the product higher...or
    haven't you heard the term "inflation" before?
     
    Guest, Dec 20, 2008
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  12. Rock Hardson

    K J Guest

    Oh, and don't forget the black helicopters.
     
    K J, Dec 20, 2008
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  13. Rock Hardson

    Moses Guest

    I'm sorry the workers may lose benefits but, the option is to shut
    down American Auto companies. To understand, look at the history.
    Unions organized in the 1930s and became very powerful by 1950. With
    unsustainable profits and prosperity in the 1950s, the companies met
    most union demands to keep the production lines rolling. Today, on
    the other hand, the 3 remaining auto makers are on the brink of
    banruptcy and most American consumers are unable to buy a 35,000
    automobile.
    I'd like to see all auto makers unionised but I'd also like to see the
    price of cars reduced. Lets hope the OBama guys make significant
    advances to level the plying field for all auto makers.
    The Japanese companies have no retired pensioners to support but
    companies like GM have thousands. Auto makers in foreign countries
    can rely on the government to provide health care while here health
    care costs knock your socks off. Hospital fees, like union benefits,
    are based on a level of prosperity that hasn't existed in America for
    40 years.
    It's funny the administration demands auto makers to get rid of all
    corporate jets. What about eliminating air force one? And what about
    all those congressmen and Senators who are flown wherevever they want
    to go by military aircraft?
     
    Moses, Dec 20, 2008
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  14. Rock Hardson

    Mike Hunter Guest

    You are almost correct for change, worker in domestic assembly can't pull a
    chain. They have to push the big red stop button to halt the line when
    someone caused an error or notices that something is missing to stop the
    line when there is a problem.

    Why don't you say in my opinion when you post your goofy comments? You are
    entitled to that, but at least then you will simply appear to be uninformed
    and not just stupid LOL
     
    Mike Hunter, Dec 20, 2008
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  15. Rock Hardson

    edspyhill01 Guest

    What do you do for a living?
     
    edspyhill01, Dec 20, 2008
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  16. Rock Hardson

    edspyhill01 Guest

    Just 8% of a car's cost is labor. Fifty percent is parts. The rest,
    42%,is sucked up do-nothing, fat-assed managers - the real cause for
    the decline of American business. In a Japanese car company the
    manager who has to layoff people must lay himself off. Never happens
    in American corporations. Management is like a diaper, always on your
    ass and always full of shit.

    When I have a UK manager, I'm managed in an enlightened way. Never
    happens with American managers.
     
    edspyhill01, Dec 20, 2008
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  17. Rock Hardson

    Gosi Guest

    The manager was trying to make a decision about Jack and Jill.
    He is talking to Jill and says I am not sure if I should lay you or
    Jack off.
    She answered that he should jack off.
     
    Gosi, Dec 20, 2008
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  18. Rock Hardson

    Jack Guest

    So a bail will do what ?? There's hundreds of thousands of their cars
    sitting unsold on car lots...oh yeah, lets get them back to work to make
    many more thousands of cars that nobody wants so they came park them on
    lots.

    I'd personally like to see all three go down the tubes...get rid of their
    management, unions, and baggage. Let the Jap companies buy up the corpses
    and resurrect them into efficient concerns.
     
    Jack, Dec 21, 2008
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    Mike Marlow Guest

    It does not matter if it drives them crazy. If they want more interesting
    work then let them get off their duff and get an education or develop
    skills that will afford them those opportunities. Boring work is not a
    justification for pay. If you don't have a lot to offer, you do the crummy
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    At minimum wage those people would indeed be getting all the pay
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    I have no problem buying either American or import and my father is dead,
    so he's not putting bread on the table for screwing in a bolt. He did
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