Used Civic or new Fit?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by nblomgren, Apr 12, 2006.

  1. nblomgren

    Kent Finnell Guest

    The Fit Hybrid is at least 2 years away, if then. The "2007" Fit is coming
    out of sequence for Honda's model cycle. The next major change is 2 years
    away, instead of 5.
     
    Kent Finnell, Apr 13, 2006
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  2. nblomgren

    Jason Guest

    --Nan,
    The Civic or Fit would be a better choice than any car made by GM or Ford.
    The reason is related to quality. Any of the smaller vehicles made by
    Toyota would also be a great choice.
    Jasaon
     
    Jason, Apr 13, 2006
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  3. nblomgren

    Jason Guest

    Hello,
    You should get the May 2006 issue of Car and Driver.
    According to page 65 of that magazine, the Honda Fit
    produces 109 Bhp @ 5800
    The torque is 105 @ 4800
    It has a SOHC engine

    The Toyota Yaris S
    produces 106 Bhp @6000
    The torque is 103@ 4200

    Both engines in the above cars are about the same size.
    However the Fit has a SOHC engine and the Yaris has a DOHC engine.
    DOHC engines are in most cases better than SOHC engines.
    Both engines are 91 cu. inches (1497 and 1496 cc).
    Jason
     
    Jason, Apr 13, 2006
    #23
  4. nblomgren

    Jason Guest

    Does Honda still make the really small Hybrid called the Insight? That
    would be a good option for anyone that wants a small hybrid car. I would
    prefer the hybrid Civic since it has more room and more power. I once had
    a friend that owned an Insight. She said that it did not have enough power
    and when she went up a grade--she would push the pedal to the metal and
    the car would only go about 50 mph (on grades).
    Jason
     
    Jason, Apr 13, 2006
    #24
  5. nblomgren

    Kent Finnell Guest

    Yeah, but virtually on order only. One is not likely to be found on a
    dealer's lot. The Insight was Honda's Beta test.

    They are 2 seaters only with a 1.0 liter engine and set for economy with
    skinny tires. Short commute on flat land only. The Civic and Accord
    hybrids are real cars with real power (especially the V6 Hybrid Accord).
     
    Kent Finnell, Apr 13, 2006
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  6. nblomgren

    Jason Guest

    If I was planning on buying a Hybrid--it would be the Civic Hybrid or the
    Toyota Prius. I read an article in a car magazine indicating that the
    Accord Hybrid and Civic Hybrids are poor sellers compared to the Prius.
    Believe it or not, the article indicated the main reason is the Prius
    looks like a Hybrid whereas, the Civic Hybrid and Accord Hybrid don't look
    like Hybrids. In other words, lots of the people that purchased a Prius in
    order to impress their friends. They should put a bumper sticker on those
    Prius cars that say, "Look at Me--I am an Environmentalist." Of course,
    that is not true for all of the people that own a Prius.
    Jason
     
    Jason, Apr 13, 2006
    #26
  7. nblomgren

    ACAR Guest

    Be sure to take it onto the highway at 75 mpg. The Fit is kinda noisy
    and you may not like it for long trips.
    Nissan is offering rebates on the Senta dropping the price for base
    models to near $11K. You might want to check insurance premiums; I
    suspect the Fit Sport will cost you more than a Civic or Sentra sedan.
    A new Civic would certainly be a lot more powerful.
    Test driving is the only way for you to figure out which car will meet
    your particular needs and desires. Try to drive all the cars in all the
    different roads/traffic conditions you typically encounter. A test
    drive at night may also prove useful.

    Happy Shopping

    ACAR
     
    ACAR, Apr 14, 2006
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  8. nblomgren

    SoCalMike Guest

    didnt see anything on there in writing, but the block/head doesnt have a
    belt cover.

    seems like a nice car, reminiscent of that suzuki 4dr hatch, with the
    same too small looking wheels.

    to me, it looks like the scion Xa has more standard features for a
    couple grand less, but ill withhold judgement til i get to compare em
    back to back.

    magic seat is nice, but not worth $3000 more.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 14, 2006
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  9. nblomgren

    SoCalMike Guest


    find a dealer thats got the xA. let em have your money! i likes em both,
    but the xB is a teenage boy racer magnet. therell be more of them stolen
    and stripped for parts than xA's
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 14, 2006
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  10. nblomgren

    SoCalMike Guest

    i wonder if HP/curb weight would be a good appromation of "power"
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 14, 2006
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  11. nblomgren

    SoCalMike Guest

    maybe its the versatility of the hatch? maybe because it IS styled
    differently. more gizmos and stuff. or maybe because toyota wrote the
    book on hybrids? its a different way of thinking, in all aspects. and
    the design takes advantage of that. makes the civic look like an
    afterthought.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 14, 2006
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  12. nblomgren

    SoCalMike Guest


    ooh. 3bhp and 2 ft/lb. thats barely measurable. how bout bhp/curb
    weight? id want a hatch, anyway. and the 2dr hatch is even lighter than
    the yaris sedan.

    the scion xA uses the same drivetrain as the yaris, has more standard
    features, 4 doors, and a hatch. yet it wasnt in the comparo.... what
    gives??????? WTF????!!!!
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 14, 2006
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  13. nblomgren

    Jason Guest

    I believe the reason was because the article was about econocars (aka
    economobiles) that have NEVER been sold in America until this year or next
    year. It's my guess that the scion xA, Ford Focus and Chevy Cobalt were
    not included on the Car and Driver list because they have were sold in
    America last year or prior to last year. I am just guessing. I should note
    that the Dodge Caliber SE was included on the list. I don't know whether
    or not any of these cars on the list were sold in 2005 or those years
    prior to 2005. Do you know?
    I also noticed that every car on the list had an engine that was less than
    122 cu. inches (1998 cc). What is the size of the engine in the scion xA?
    Here's the list:
    Dodge Caliber SE
    Honda Fit Sport
    Hyundai Accent GLS
    Kia Rio5 SX
    Nissan Versa 1.8L
    Suzuki Reno
    Toyota Yaris S
     
    Jason, Apr 14, 2006
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  14. nblomgren

    Bucky Guest

    You're going to be very, very disappointed: 31/38 automatic, 33/38.
    That's no better than the 01-05 Civics.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/14341961.htm
     
    Bucky, Apr 14, 2006
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  15. nblomgren

    Elle Guest

    You sure called that one right! :)

    I await the Toyota Yaris or the arrival of a Fit with a
    smaller engine.
     
    Elle, Apr 14, 2006
    #35
  16. Keep in mind that EPA tends to underestimate mileage for Hondas. My '93
    Accord automatic gets about 33mpg on the highway, considerably better than
    the 28mpg that EPA estimated.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Apr 14, 2006
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  17. nblomgren

    ACAR Guest

    I suspect Toyota is happier selling the Prius for $22K+ than an
    underpowered Yaris for $12K.

    Honda is having more difficulty selling their hybrid-assist cars so
    maybe a Fit with a smaller engine will show up. Probably not before
    Civic sales slacken.
     
    ACAR, Apr 14, 2006
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  18. nblomgren

    Bob Guest

    Have you driven one? Yaris, that is. Or are you just looking at
    specs?
     
    Bob, Apr 15, 2006
    #38
  19. nblomgren

    SoCalMike Guest

    i was unaware that/if the accent, rio5, and reno are new for 2006/7.
    hows that for a sentence? i think they said the rio and accent were.

    the xA would have been a better choice, as far as it being a 4 door
    hatch. specs are virtually identical to the yaris. same drivetrain.

    only thing is the xA comes with power door locks, windows, mirrors, AC,
    pioneer CD/MP3 player, all standard. with 4 drs and a hatch! yaris is
    just sedan and 3dr.

    on the yaris, you have to add at least one package to get all that.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 15, 2006
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  20. nblomgren

    SoCalMike Guest

    the yaris 3dr is probably going to be the most fun to drive. lightest
    curb weight and the same engine as the yaris sedan, xA, xB. we shall
    see, tho.

    i kinda like the practicality of 4 doors.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 15, 2006
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