Valve cover bolt busted off. Need advice

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Qjonny, Apr 17, 2005.

  1. Qjonny

    Qjonny Guest

    First thanks for help with timing, I was indeed 1 tooth off on the
    cam.

    Now, while tighting the long valve cover bolt on the upper Right
    corner..the damn thing broke off. I wasn’t even at 9foot pounds.
    Anyway, the lower part of the bolt(the part with the threads) is stuck
    inside the threaded part of case. Questions: 1) how can I get it out?
    2) could I just RTV the bolt with cap on to the valve cover? Would the
    remainder 4 bolts keep her from leaking? Thanks in advance. What
    trouble..second time taking her apart to repalce timing belt,water
    pump and tensioner.. get everything right, then this happens.
     
    Qjonny, Apr 17, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    I would drill a hole into the centre of the broken piece of the bolt, and
    use an extractor to remove the piece. Use some oil to help free the piece.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Apr 17, 2005
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    Jason Guest

    Hello,
    I agree with what Brian told you. If you end up needing a new valve
    cover--visit the largest junk yard in your area. Most of the larger junk
    yards are now on a special database which simply means that all of them
    are linked together. If they don't have a valve cover for your
    vehicle--they can order one from one of the other junk yards.
     
    Jason, Apr 17, 2005
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    disallow Guest

    This happened on TWO of the valve cover bolts on
    my 98 civic. Really annoying.


    First of all, take the valve cover off and see
    if there is any part of the stud showing that
    you might be able to grab onto with a plyer or
    something.

    Short of getting lucky that way, MAKE SURE you put rags or some sort of
    cover over the valve
    train to make sure no filings make it into your
    valves and oil.

    We got an 'Easy-Out' from the hardware store.
    You put this bit into your cordless drill, and
    apply as much pressure in reverse as possible at a 90
    degree angle to the broken stud of the bolt.
    Eventually, the bit grabs the stud, and it backs
    out. It took about 2 minutes of constant
    pressure and spinning to get one of them out.

    Any questions, feel free to email me directly

    loewent at gmail dot com
     
    disallow, Apr 17, 2005
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    disallow Guest

    PS, by the way, YES, as a temporary measure,
    you can RTV the hole in the valve cover, and
    the rest should hold it in place well enough
    to keep it from leaking.
     
    disallow, Apr 17, 2005
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    L Alpert Guest

    As others have mentioned lubrication along with drilling and using an easy
    out works well if you have the room. One of the best oils I have found for
    seized parts is call "Kroil". I would highly recommend it.
     
    L Alpert, Apr 18, 2005
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  7. Since it broke while tightening, it may not be very tight at all (it
    probably broke before it bottomed). Try teasing it loose with a scribe or
    punch, or chuck up a small piece of dowel in a reversible drill. If you can
    get it out enough to grab with pliers you're home free.

    The problem I've had with extractors is they like to walk to the edge and
    bugger up the threads in the hole. Otherwise they are a godsend.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 18, 2005
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    Woody Guest

    How tight was it going in. Was it crossthreaded? If so you may have to drill
    it and install a Helicoil...
     
    Woody, Apr 18, 2005
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    Qjonny Guest

    Thanks for the advice. I got it out yesterday with a screw extractor.
    First I sprayed it with penatrating oil and let it sit over night.
     
    Qjonny, Apr 20, 2005
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    Jason Guest

    I'm glad that you finally got it out. I bet that you worried about it
    quite a lot. Now--you don't have to worry about it anymore.
     
    Jason, Apr 20, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    Good deal! Glad to be of help.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Apr 20, 2005
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  12. For the future reference, how much did it fight you?

    And, congratulations!!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 21, 2005
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  13. Qjonny

    Qjonny Guest

    It must not of been in that tight.

    1)First I sprayed it with penatrating oil..let sit over night.

    2) Next day, I slightly tapped it a few times with a sharp nail
    driver/punch. This was to make a dimple in the center of the busted
    off bolt. A guy at the hardware store said this would keep the bit
    from "walking" to the sides and messing up the threads.

    3) I drilled it down about this deep __ with a 5/64" drill bit. I
    then attached the #1 screw extractor to a small T handled tap wrench.
    Started twisting it slowly counterclockwise. It came out very easily.

    One note: I covered the area the best I could to keep out small metal
    shavings, that was the hardest part. It was windy out and a real pain
    in the ass.

    Again thanks everyone! Time to ride
     
    Qjonny, Apr 21, 2005
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  14. For future reference, you can use a blob of grease (or shaving cream,
    depending on which will cause less trouble where you are working) to control
    the shavings. Put the blob on the area and drill through it. Our asbestos
    abatement guys even use shaving cream for drilling asbestos-contailing floor
    tiles!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 22, 2005
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    Jason Guest

    Mike,
    That appears to be good advice. I only wish that I had known that secret
    when I once done backyard mechanical work on various types of cars.
    Jason
     
    Jason, Apr 22, 2005
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