Valve Job - O2 Sensor Question

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Paul, Nov 30, 2004.

  1. Paul

    Paul Guest

    Greetings: I've got a '92 Accord (175,000 mi). Have been trying to
    really give it a thorough upgrading without a total overhaul, and just
    wondered if either or both of the following two things could possibly
    increase engine performance and longevity: (1) valve adjustment
    and, (2) a new O2 sensor. Neither of these issues has ever been
    addressed over the life of the car. I have anecdotally heard that
    a valve adjustment and/or new oxygen sensor could enhance
    performance, but would like to hear it from someone out there in
    the real world before shelling out real money. Thanks. - Paul
     
    Paul, Nov 30, 2004
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  2. Paul

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    Do you mean 'performance', or fuel economy. Your wording isn't clear.
    Valve adjustment should follow the manual's recommendation, (unless
    there is a known error, like the CRV manual) and the PCV often gets
    overlooked.

    Why not list the stuff you _have_ done?

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Nov 30, 2004
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  3. Paul

    Paul Guest

    Hi Curly: Yeah, performance synonymous with fuel economy is
    on track. And, you know, "smoothness" in driving for lack of a
    better term. OK, here's a rundown on what's been done recently,
    all values in miles:

    1) New plugs, Bosch Platinum +4 (don't laugh, 'cause they
    work great) at 175,000. These really made a difference.
    2) New rotors at 175,000, after-market but they work fine.
    3) Machined drums at 170,000
    4) New brake pads/shoes/master cylinder at 170,000
    5) New radiator / timing belt / water pump at 150,000
    6 New radiator fan timer, engine coolant temp. sensor,
    gauge sender, fan sensor, and thermostat at 150,000.
    7) New EGR valve/EGR solenoid/PCV valve at 135,000.
    8) New tires (Michelin HydroEdge) so I don't go hydo-
    planing all over Canada like before with my 4mm
    Harmonys.

    So what's left? I'd love a transmission overhaul but can't afford it
    and don't know how to manage it myself. Maybe I'll take one of
    those six-week night classes at the local community college and
    learn how to do this. Seriously, I'd love to. Just don't have the
    time. So that's back to my original questions. Namely, what kind
    of benefit (or lack thereof) might a valve adjustment and/or new
    oxygen sensor have on this particular car? Thanks again. - Paul
     
    Paul, Nov 30, 2004
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    jim beam Guest

    paul, there's not a massive amount of point in replacing the sensor
    unless it's giving you trouble. but hey, it looks like you /want/ to do
    it, so go ahead.

    regarding valve clearance, i'm not sure about the accord, but the civics
    specify 0.17-0.22mm inlet, 0.22-0.27mm exhaust as a range, with 0.20mm
    & 0.25mm being typical. i have mine adjusted to the minimum of the
    permissible range because it theoretically gives slightly extended valve
    opening. the result is /definitely/ rougher idle, but arguably better
    performance. i can [just] out-perform all other d15b2 hondas i've
    encountered my vintage, but i can't guarantee that's solely attributable
    to valve adjustment.
     
    jim beam, Nov 30, 2004
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  5. Paul

    Paul Guest

    Hi Jim: I really appreciate your input. It sounds like auto
    tuning is a lot like just about everything else in life...it all
    depends on what you want. Interesting about the idle on
    your civic. Rougher but better performance on the one hand,
    versus (I presume) smoother but less performance on the
    other. Trade-offs, trade-offs, and more trade-offs. : )
    Thanks again. - Paul


     
    Paul, Nov 30, 2004
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