Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Useful Info, May 21, 2007.

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    Tegger Guest



    Such a directive exists for all Toyotas and Hondas for the last several
    decades.
     
    Tegger, May 23, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    Such a directive exists for all Toyotas and Hondas for the last several
    decades.
     
    Tegger, May 23, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    Most autos do not use bands any more; they use clutch packs. Filter
    replacements are not usually required if the fluid is changed regularly.



    So do I. But I seriously doubt any of those boxes would last 300K miles.

    It is to the credit of the manufacturers that trannies last as long as they
    do with the neglect and abuse many people throw at them.



    No. Fluid changes are always desirable regardless of transmission make or
    model. Lubricant quality deteriorates over time regardless.
     
    Tegger, May 23, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    Most autos do not use bands any more; they use clutch packs. Filter
    replacements are not usually required if the fluid is changed regularly.



    So do I. But I seriously doubt any of those boxes would last 300K miles.

    It is to the credit of the manufacturers that trannies last as long as they
    do with the neglect and abuse many people throw at them.



    No. Fluid changes are always desirable regardless of transmission make or
    model. Lubricant quality deteriorates over time regardless.
     
    Tegger, May 23, 2007
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    Tegger Guest


    If that's the case, the plan isn't working very well. The domestics are
    losing market share left right and center. Isn't Toyota poised to displace
    GM in the #1 position in a few years?
     
    Tegger, May 23, 2007
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    Tegger Guest


    If that's the case, the plan isn't working very well. The domestics are
    losing market share left right and center. Isn't Toyota poised to displace
    GM in the #1 position in a few years?
     
    Tegger, May 23, 2007
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    Eeyore Guest

    The *vehicle* may indeed suffer less damage. Doesn't necessarily hold true for the
    people inside.

    Whereas in fact you're far worse off.

    Graham
     
    Eeyore, May 23, 2007
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    Eeyore Guest

    The *vehicle* may indeed suffer less damage. Doesn't necessarily hold true for the
    people inside.

    Whereas in fact you're far worse off.

    Graham
     
    Eeyore, May 23, 2007
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    Eeyore Guest

    I hadn't heard of that being British and all. Cars catching fire over here is virtually
    unheard of.

    Graham
     
    Eeyore, May 23, 2007
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    Eeyore Guest

    I hadn't heard of that being British and all. Cars catching fire over here is virtually
    unheard of.

    Graham
     
    Eeyore, May 23, 2007
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    Earle Horton Guest

    Not necessarily. The other car and its occupants may serve as his "crush
    zone".

    Saludos,

    Earle
     
    Earle Horton, May 23, 2007
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    Earle Horton Guest

    Not necessarily. The other car and its occupants may serve as his "crush
    zone".

    Saludos,

    Earle
     
    Earle Horton, May 23, 2007
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    Jeremy Guest

    I think your wrong. A manual transmission with an "automatic shifting
    mechanism" is still a manual transmission. In an automatic transmission the
    transmission IS automatic (I hate to state the obvious for you). The
    transmission in the VW replaces the gear shift with hydraulic actuators,
    which aren't an integral part of the transmission. You could theoretically
    remove the actuators and put a gear shifter in making it fully manual again.
    You could not do this with an automatic transmission.

    You stating that a manual transmission with an automatic shifting aparatus
    on it makes it an automatic transmission is like saying if your passenger
    shifts your manual transmission while you stear makes your manual
    transmission an automatic.

    No, it's not.

    An automatic transmission is simply one that's automatic and doesn't
    require the driver to shift. It can take on any form--for example, like
    the Prius's power split device. Or a belt-driven CVT.

    Or even the Honda automatic transmission, which is nothing like the GM
    trannies.


    Which makes it (wait for it....)....an automatic transmission.
    [/QUOTE]
     
    Jeremy, May 23, 2007
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    Jeremy Guest

    I think your wrong. A manual transmission with an "automatic shifting
    mechanism" is still a manual transmission. In an automatic transmission the
    transmission IS automatic (I hate to state the obvious for you). The
    transmission in the VW replaces the gear shift with hydraulic actuators,
    which aren't an integral part of the transmission. You could theoretically
    remove the actuators and put a gear shifter in making it fully manual again.
    You could not do this with an automatic transmission.

    You stating that a manual transmission with an automatic shifting aparatus
    on it makes it an automatic transmission is like saying if your passenger
    shifts your manual transmission while you stear makes your manual
    transmission an automatic.

    No, it's not.

    An automatic transmission is simply one that's automatic and doesn't
    require the driver to shift. It can take on any form--for example, like
    the Prius's power split device. Or a belt-driven CVT.

    Or even the Honda automatic transmission, which is nothing like the GM
    trannies.


    Which makes it (wait for it....)....an automatic transmission.
    [/QUOTE]
     
    Jeremy, May 23, 2007
  15. I haven't been following closely, but I gather the Ford Crown Victoria that
    is so popular with law enforcement in the US has a problem with the fuel
    tank placement or protection. There have been a few cases of the car being
    hit from behind and engulfing the occupant in flaming gasoline - reminiscent
    of the Pinto problem nearly 40 years ago.
    http://www.crownvictoriasafetyalert.com/ has what looks like an explanation.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 23, 2007
  16. I haven't been following closely, but I gather the Ford Crown Victoria that
    is so popular with law enforcement in the US has a problem with the fuel
    tank placement or protection. There have been a few cases of the car being
    hit from behind and engulfing the occupant in flaming gasoline - reminiscent
    of the Pinto problem nearly 40 years ago.
    http://www.crownvictoriasafetyalert.com/ has what looks like an explanation.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 23, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    It's not. "Manual" means it is controlled by the hand. If the hand does not
    control the transmission's gear changes, then it is not a "manual".

    If no driver input is required to effect gear changes (or ratio changes),
    then it is an automatic, regardless of the actual mechanism that performs
    the ratio changes, or how those ratios are supplied in the first place.




    Sure you could. The Model-T's planetary unit operated just that way, but
    with a pedal instead of a hand control. If you wanted to, you could
    probably retrofit a Turbo Hydramatic so as to operate it by the use of
    pedals, just like the Model-T.

    The various planetary overdrive units that have been installed on manual
    transmissions through the years were manually operated by pressing a switch
    with your hand.
     
    Tegger, May 23, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    It's not. "Manual" means it is controlled by the hand. If the hand does not
    control the transmission's gear changes, then it is not a "manual".

    If no driver input is required to effect gear changes (or ratio changes),
    then it is an automatic, regardless of the actual mechanism that performs
    the ratio changes, or how those ratios are supplied in the first place.




    Sure you could. The Model-T's planetary unit operated just that way, but
    with a pedal instead of a hand control. If you wanted to, you could
    probably retrofit a Turbo Hydramatic so as to operate it by the use of
    pedals, just like the Model-T.

    The various planetary overdrive units that have been installed on manual
    transmissions through the years were manually operated by pressing a switch
    with your hand.
     
    Tegger, May 23, 2007
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    jim beam Guest

    "you're" as in "you are".
    no it's not. any transmission with an automatic shifting mechanism is
    an automatic - by definition.
    nonsensical garbage!

    <time wasting ends here>
     
    jim beam, May 23, 2007
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    jim beam Guest

    "you're" as in "you are".
    no it's not. any transmission with an automatic shifting mechanism is
    an automatic - by definition.
    nonsensical garbage!

    <time wasting ends here>
     
    jim beam, May 23, 2007
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