Warped Rotors

I didn't mention it, but it was found that the calipers were "frozen"
and they were repaired as well.

Maybe that's why my back brakes wore out significantly before the front
ones?

 

Definitely, and the reason they seized up is that they're back there
in the spray and maybe the salt. You should have a look at them once a
year at least, especially if they've spent a winter in the slush.

 

One can help keep the calipers free by jabbing the brakes
harshly once in a while, just for an instant.


mike hunt

 

And this does what?

 

Forces the caliper to move, something that does not necessary
happen when the brakes are applied easily, like for showing
down at slow speeds.


mike hunt

 

Gives the dolt a reason to post when he has absolutely nothing useful to
say, that's what.

 

spake unto the assembled masses in

You, sir, have obviously NEVER actually worked on actual automotive brakes.

 

I had to do some emergency braking the other day. Stupid shithead in a
Celica,in front of me, decided to come to a hard stop in the middle of
nowhere, while I was trying to pass him on the right. I got boxed out
(no gaps in the right lane) and had to brake. Didn't help that the road
was wet. Slid 30 feet and ended up 5 feet from the bastards bumper. (I
hate it when the bastards suddenly stop without warning...it doesn't
help when they have a good car with good brakes) I definitely didn't
like the way my brakes behaved. The front locked up too quickly, seems
like the front were doing most of the braking. Anyways, as per your
article, it might be time for me to have those rear adjusted. The rear
drums are 145,000km and all original. The front are on their third pads,
and the Brembo cross-drilled rotor have already seen about 100,000km of
use.

Pars
98 Civic Hatch

 

1) Passing on the right is usually quite stupid, and
2) If you could not stop or had difficulties stopping on time, you were
following too closely.

Hint - you were obviously driving quite recklessly.

 

Ummmm...physics works. The weight of your vehicle shifted to the front,
and yes, the front brakes WERE doing most of the braking.

This is a fact of life in ALL braking, on ALL cars. The front brakes do
most if not all of the work.

Were you surprised by that?

 

Having an amateur driving in front of you, (especially one with
attitude) is also stupid. But, point taken on passing on the right. I'll
have to try to reduce, especially now that the weather is getting bad.

I wasn't following too closely, just going too fast... Otherwise, I
would have gotten rear-ended myself, since all the amateurs were
following too closely... (Otherwise, there would have been space for me
to bail on the right). At least I'm one step ahead of the sheep, since I
know what I'm doing wrong.

Pars

 

I know the front brakes do most the work. I suppose you know more about
the feel of my car and it's dynamics. I bet you would shit your pants if
you were in the same situation and probably forget to modulate the brake
while in a slide. (assuming u don't have ABS). I've but 140,000km of
hard driving on the car, I know how it's suppose to behave at the
extremes.

Pars
98 Hatch

 

Hmmmmm, apparently you didn't know that. You said:

"Seems like the front were doing most of the braking." That's like
saying "seems like snow is cold".

its dynamics, not it's dynamics. Look, you said that it *seemed* like
the fronts were doing most of the braking. There is no "seemed" about
it. You acted like you weren't aware that the fronts were doing most of
the braking, or that they were supposed to do most of the braking.

Given that you didn't seem to know that, I'd say yes, I know more about
your car's dynamics than you're saying you know. Front brakes do most
if not all of the braking.

But this is the first time you've ever realized that it "seemed" that
the front brakes were doing most of the braking.

In 140,000 km.

 

I wasn't following too closely, just going too fast...[/QUOTE]

It's obvious that everyone else knows MUCH more about the dynamics of
your car than you do.

"I wasn't following too closely, just going too fast..." Is that
anything like "I'm not overweight, I'm undertall..."

Your speed was your speed. Your distance was your distance. You could
have either (a) slowed down, or (b) increased the distance to the next
car.

Too closely and too fast are interconnected. You sound like an idiot
when you say what you said.

And then there's that bit about not realizing that the front brakes were
supposed to do most of the braking...

 

Snow is cold? That's a great observation. Thanks for playing on my
words.

 

It's obvious that everyone else knows MUCH more about the dynamics of
your car than you do.[/QUOTE]

My car is still in great condition after 5 years of driving (no
accidents). I guess you would be in the group that consist of 'everyone
else'. Don't expect me to bow to your great wisdom.

(a) I was able to stop in time. (b) I realized that my brakes could use
improvement after an emergency stop in poor conditions. The fact that I
can hold my speed is my problem (and the cops who are trying to generate
$$$), not yours.

Pars

 

(a) I was able to stop in time. (b) I realized that my brakes could use
improvement after an emergency stop in poor conditions. The fact that I
can hold my speed is my problem (and the cops who are trying to generate
$$$), not yours.[/QUOTE]

No, it's my problem when you try to tell me that you weren't following
too closely, that you were just going too fast.

The two are completely intertwined, and you can't separate one from the
other.

Now, you THOUGHT you had enough distance to stop at your speed, but you
were wrong. That means you were following too closely, AND you have bad
judgment.

 

Unfortunately, you can't prevent people from being stupid. Just drive
as if you expect them to be.

145km is around 80k Miles w/ Original Drums... Hmm. It sounds like
the rears aren't doing anything! Does the car have a proportioning
valve? It may need to be adjusted.


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I believe the Civic does have a proportioning valve and I think the
proportions from front/back is set-up properly. I'm going to have to
look into getting better brake pads for the rear, to compensate for the
AEM pads that are up front. In the dry, the better braking up front is a
major bonus, but it doesn't seem to be much help in the wet.

The drum setup on the Civic's tend to be very long lived, in general.
Also, I almost always downshift when I'm braking, so brake's life-spam
should be on the positive side.

Pars
98 Civic Hatch