We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant

They would make less gasoline and more "other stuff".

The ratio of gas to "other stuff" is not fixed. It's flexible
depending on demand.

 

That is not true they already 'crack' to make as much gasoline as they can.
If the demand was cut in half and lowers the price why would the even want
to make more gasoline when the greater profit is in the carbon base? The
idea has always been to get rid of the higher distillates to get to the
money makers.




mike hunt

 

According to your calculations, I guess it is.


mike hunt

 

Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
"burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.

 

Good point.

The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
road maintenance.

 

It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.

We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.

 

I'll bet you are not a chemist but if you can figure out way to refine crude
to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
you could do it. LOL

mike hunt

 

That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c

mike hunt

 

That was most likely was placate those Senator and Congressmen that were
opposed to giving US taxpayers money to buyers of hybrid vehicles to be
passed on to foreign companies that sell hybrids at premium price, that do
not themselves pay federal corporate income taxes.


mike hunt

 

Maybe, "Mike", because you're a troll and a known liar, and you
routinely make claims and then refuse to back them up. Nothing you
say can be trusted.

 

Exactly Mike. IF the dimmies get in control they will tax the feel good
crowd while giving them high honors for conserving, also a little pat on
the rump, LOL.

For me increased gas prices don't have much of an impact because I don't
drive that much any more. I either walk or ride a bike for short trips,
it's much more healthy anyway. BTW, if the socialists do gain control,
we'll have absolutely nothing to worry about. They will build huge
amounts of condominiums and force those of us who have our own home and
property out and into condos. This, the socialists say will be more
efficient and tax friendly, for them. LOL.

 

I believe it takes FIVE gal.of crude to make one gal of gasoline.
The yield from one bbl of crude is 20%,or 1/5 of a bbl.

 

It is your contention that needs supporting. Yet you fail to do so.

Jeff

 

You are the one who has a problem with what I posted and you have yet to
post any source that leads you to believe what I posted was not correct. I
have not said you are wrong, I said I'm willing to look at where you got
your information, I'm still waiting for you to show me were my source was
wrong. One can only assume that apparently you are not able to do so

mike hunt

 

Will you two read this, it was posted the toher day but you are to busy
yelling at each other...



This should help....

The United States and Russia, along with the Organization of Petroleum
Exporting Countries (OPEC), accounted for 61 percent of the total crude

oil produced in the world in 2004. The United States accounted for 7.4
percent of the world's total 2004 crude oil production, and Russia 12
percent. Because uses for crude oil in its natural state are limited,
almost all crude oil is processed into finished petroleum products at a

refinery. The refining process usually involves (1) distillation, or
separation of the hydrocarbons that make up crude oil so that the
heavier products, such as asphalt, are separated from the lighter
products, like kerosene; (2) conversion, or cracking of the molecules
to allow the refiner to squeeze a higher percentage of light products,
such as gasoline, from each barrel of oil; and (3) treatment, or
enhancement of the quality of the product which could entail removing
sulfur from such fuels as kerosene, gasoline, and heating oils. The
addition of blending components to gasoline is also a part of this
process.


Crude oil is measured in barrels. A barrel of 42-U.S. gallons of crude
oil yields slightly more than 44 gallons of petroleum products. This
"process gain" of volume is due to a reduction in the density during
the refining process. In 2004, one barrel of crude oil, when refined,
yielded 19.7 gallons of finished motor gasoline, as well as smaller
quantities of many other petroleum products


Gerald

 

(top posting fixed)

No, Mike. True, you can't "refine" it directly, but they already know how to
make what they need from the refined fractions. Your failure to acknowledge that
makes you either extremely ignorant, or a troll.

 

The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
the dollar
Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros

You can think of it as a Pizza
There is one Pizza and several slices
The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same

You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much

Just like what has happened with the oil
You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars

The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
for your exceesive livestyle

The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
a lot less amounts of dollars

One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China

It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
are overpriced and they are spread all over the world

The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
and you will see its worth decreasing

There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer

A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars

Prepare for a heavy inflation

A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars

The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
value

The Corean war
The Vietnam war
The Afghan war
The Iraq war

and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists

Best of luck

 

If what you say is true, then shouldn't the money market interest be
falling?

 

YOu got it ass backwards. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support
your claim. It is not up to me to disprove your claim.

Jeff

 

That's less than $0.01 per gallon. That's almost nothing.

Yet, according to Sen. Reid, oil companies make 50c to 75c per gallon of
gas.

http://reid.senate.gov/gasprices0504.cfm and the big oil companies saw their
profits go up by 44 to 294%! I am really happy that I invested in the oil
companies and related industrties.

In California, the price of refining and profits went from about $0.35 to
$0.40 in January 2002 to around $0.65 now. I guess that explains the record
profits the oil companies are making.

Jeff