We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Apr 19, 2006.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Mike Hunter Guest

    Precisely the point, you made a claim, I'm only asking you to prove it. I
    merely quoted something I read, I made no claim. I even directed you to the
    source for what I posted ;)


    mike hunt

    .. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support your claim.
     
    Mike Hunter, Apr 22, 2006
  2. Nomen Nescio

    Mike Hunter Guest

    Can we assume you are not an economics major? ;)


    mike hunt
     
    Mike Hunter, Apr 22, 2006
  3. Nomen Nescio

    Mike Hunter Guest

    You can resort to calling me names if you are running out of arguments to
    support you position if you chose, I could not care less, but I certainly am
    not ignorant of the fact one can not refine crude to get to the carbon stock
    without producing gasoline or other volatiles. If they can not sell or
    store them, they will need to be burned off ;)


    mike hunt
     
    Mike Hunter, Apr 22, 2006
  4. Nomen Nescio

    Mike Hunter Guest

    According the Department of Commerce, oil companies in general earn around
    9% or 10% profit. WalMart and Procter Gambol make well over 20%. Exxon
    paid more in federal cooperate taxes than it paid in dividends to the share
    holds, who then paid taxes on the SAME money ;)


    mike hunt


     
    Mike Hunter, Apr 22, 2006
  5. Nomen Nescio

    Jeff Guest

    ExxonMobile had a profit margin of around 10.8%.

    Walmart and its competitors had profit margins of around 3.6%.

    The values are from yahoo fiance http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=WMT and
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=XOM

    I am sure that the corporate filings with the SEC will be consistant with
    the yahoo finance numbers. After all, that is where Yahoo gets them.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Apr 23, 2006
  6. Nomen Nescio

    gerald2003r Guest

    Jeff, you and Mike are bad readers,,, Or are a bad study,,, Give it
    up... You have both taken it beyond your means... Wasting everyone time
    if you cannot respond to others... Have a good day, not that I would
    think that you would see this message..

    Gerald
     
    gerald2003r, Apr 23, 2006
  7. Nomen Nescio

    Mike Hunter Guest

    Gerald my friend don't you recognized when sombodys chain is being pulled?
    ;)


    mike hunt
     
    Mike Hunter, Apr 23, 2006
  8. Nomen Nescio

    Jeff Guest

    Then, ignore the thread.

    Bye.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Apr 23, 2006
  9. Nomen Nescio

    Jeff Guest

    What specific claim did I not back?

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Apr 23, 2006
  10. Nomen Nescio

    Jeff Guest

    Other tactics you might try include top-posting, to make it harder to follow
    threads, ignoring particular parts of threads where you have been shown to
    be incorrect, claiming that the other people don't support their arguments
    when the other people are asked for evidence, deleting parts of a post
    without indicating that fact when those parts of the post contain the
    information that shows the other person is incorrect.

    Mike is an expert at all of these, so you can read his posts for examples of
    each of them.

    Please provide evidence that oil companies have burned off "volatiles" in
    large quantities to get rid of them in recent years.
     
    Jeff, Apr 23, 2006
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    Now we are getting to the crux of the problem, I never said 'oil companies
    have burned off "volatiles" in large quantities
    to get rid of them in recent years.' No wonder you can not prove that it.
    What I have been saying all along is what I said in my post. If they can
    not store gasoline or sell it a profit they will burn it off and take a tax
    credit as a capital loss ;)


    mike hunt
     
    Mike Hunter, Apr 23, 2006
  12. Nomen Nescio

    Mike Hunter Guest

    I can see why you are in a quandary, if you can't remember what you posted I
    can understand why you can not prove what you said. ;)



    mike hunt
     
    Mike Hunter, Apr 23, 2006
  13. Why are you against top posting. Many email and newsreaders
    automatically top post.

    My grip is people don't clip enough. Too much crap gets dragged along
    with every reply.
     
    The BEnevolent dbu, Apr 23, 2006
  14. Because it sucks. It's not normal for discussion.
    Newsreaders? No. Outlook and web browsers? Maybe. Fucking
    microsoft.
    Top posters never seem to clip ANYHING.
    Thank top posters for that.

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    Jeff Guest

    There you go again. You said that I did not back a claim. I asked which one,
    and now you are unable to back YOUR claim.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Apr 24, 2006
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    Jeff Guest

    Please demonstrate that the oil companies have burned off gasoline and
    claimed it as a capital loss, then.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Apr 24, 2006
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    Jeff Guest

    Top posting makes it harder to follow a thread.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Apr 24, 2006
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    I'm not claiming anything I simply asked you what was it you posted. How
    do you expect somebody else to remember something you posted, after you
    snipped everything several post ago to suit your bottom posting obsession,
    when YOU don't even remember what you posted? ;)
     
    Mike Hunter, Apr 24, 2006
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    gerald2003r Guest



    Then, ignore the thread.

    Bye.


    Jeff


    Yup Done deal! Only because the thread is senseless. The thread had
    some good content until you guys took it into space with a version of a
    HOT AIR ENGINE...

    Good luck...

    Gerald
     
    gerald2003r, Apr 24, 2006
  20. hi, its just all crap, . the government knows that we CANNOT
    live/survive without gasoline, so they come up with the bullcrap that
    supplys are getting shorter etc..... so that they can hijak the oil prices.
    australia produces gasoline , but some how we here mysteriously dont
    use it , cause if there is anything happening in the world , the gov
    goes " due to %^$$^$%&^%$^%$ the price of petrol has to go up "

    how come petrol , one week is $ 1.28 a litre then something happens
    in the world and petrol goes up 10 cents ??
    what about the petrol that was in the tanks at the stations for 1.28 , .
    why doesnt the petrol that was in the tanks stay at 1.28 , cause they got
    it at the cheaper price , why dont they use that up then put more petrol
    in at the dearer price.

    there is no way teh petrol companies will allow a extremely high mileage
    per litre petrol engine to be produced. that means they will sell less
    fuel , what about the people taht have designed these engines , and teh
    petrol compaines brought them out or hasseld em ?

    another example of governments bullshit is teh cyclones taht went thru
    innasvale , queensland , and ruined some bananna crops, because of that
    they say prices of bannanas will go from 14$ a box to 40$
    they make it sound like innasvale was the only place taht grew bananna,
    infact there are 4 other places near by taht where untouched by teh
    cyclone taht grew banannas, plus there are another 13 major places in
    australia that grow alot more bannans than innasvale, its just all
    bullshit.

    mark k
    what has that got to do with the petrol we produce here in australia?
     
    mark krawczuk, Apr 29, 2006
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