what does 4mm life on rear brakes mean?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by makhan, Mar 14, 2006.

  1. makhan

    makhan Guest

    2001 Accord LX, 13,000 miles. dealer says 7mm life on front brakes and
    4mm life on rear brakes--actually it was on my service invoice--nobody
    mentioned it to me. What does it mean? Do i need to change brake pads,
    rotors?
     
    makhan, Mar 14, 2006
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  2. makhan

    TNKEV Guest

    That is a measurement of your brake pad thickness,recomended
    replacement time is 3mm,if if you have 4mm of pad life left you have
    7mm of pad. the rear pads wear at about half the rate of the front.

    if you have 13k miles and you have 7mm left on the front you will
    likely be replacing pads front and rear at about 25k.



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    TNKEV, Mar 14, 2006
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  3. makhan

    Elle Guest

    Makhan, as TNKEV said, this is a measure of how much life
    you have left on your Accord's "brake linings," where "brake
    linings" refer to brake pads for the front brakes, and,
    depending on the car, either brake pads or brake shoes on
    the rear brakes. Rotors are not involved here at this point,
    at least not as indicated on the invoice you have.

    The minimum required thickness varies from one model to
    another. For example, for the 1991 Civic, 3 mm minimum is
    required for the front. For the 1995 Civic, only 1.5 mm is
    required for the front.

    It's not clear how your service people measured, so I won't
    agree with all of TNKEV's post. The dealer might have meant
    the pad thickness on the front was 7 mm, meaning, if the min
    required is 3 mm, you have 4 mm to go.

    To give further perspective: Your front brake pads probably
    started with about 11 mm of pad. If your rear brakes use
    shoes, the shoes probably started at about 8 mm thickness.
    I'd guesstimate you're probably around the one-third to
    halfway point in the life of these linings. To say more
    exactly, I'd need to know the min thickness specs for your
    Accord and the actual starting thicknesses, as well as
    whether your car uses pads or shoes in the rear.

    The better news is that brake pads that are very near the
    end of their service life have a built-in "alarm" to tell
    the car driver. There's a piece of metal on the pad that,
    with enough wear, will start screeching against the rotor.
    It's noisy enough to be annoying, but sounds early enough so
    that it's still safe to drive the car another, say, 100
    miles.

    You may get around 25k miles of life, altogether, out of
    your brake linings, the way you're going. That's a bit low,
    but it's all relative. Brake lining wear depends on driving
    habits. E.g. do you drive a lot of hills or in the city a
    lot?

    This a manual or auto transmission? If manual, do you brake
    with the engine?

    Having brake pads and brake shoes replaced is routine
    maintenance on a car, to be performed around every 25k to
    70k miles.

    Use only genuine Honda brake pads and shoes. Using others
    may get you more brake lining life, but will tend to shorten
    rotor life. (OTOH others here feel that rotors are so cheap
    it's not worth worrying about, etc.)
     
    Elle, Mar 14, 2006
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  4. makhan

    Alan Guest

    Does this apply to people who use their left foot on the brake?
     
    Alan, Mar 14, 2006
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  5. makhan

    TNKEV Guest

    I avoid saying that because every brake lining manufacturer does not
    use the squealers. I work at a Jeep dealer and I see vehicles all day
    that have factory pads still on the vehicle that do not have a
    squealer,and the next vehicle same year same model has them. a person
    waiting for the squealer to tell them they need pads may end up buying
    rotors when they start making noise because there is no pad left and
    they are metal to metal.



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  6. makhan

    TNKEV Guest

    "likely"
    did you see the word "likely" in the part of my post you quoted?



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  7. makhan

    TNKEV Guest

    as Makhan posted "the dealer said I have 4mm of "pad life",I work at
    dealer and when a technician says "pad life" that means the thickness
    of pad left before reaching minimum pad thickness. when a technician
    says "the pads are at 3mm" that is a pad thickness measurement they
    have 0 pad life left.


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  8. makhan

    Elle Guest

    You are quite possibly correct, just as my post about the
    squealers is quite possibly correct, but I think the prudent
    thing to do is get clarification from this particular shop.

    I don't care where you work. Really.
     
    Elle, Mar 14, 2006
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  9. makhan

    TNKEV Guest

    I was only attemting to show some credibility,that my statement is
    based on daily observation.



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  10. makhan

    Elle Guest

    I know what you were attempting to do. Your statement is
    based on your place of work and not necessarily others.

    The OP should get clarification, to be sure.
     
    Elle, Mar 14, 2006
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  11. makhan

    SoCalMike Guest

    and sometimes the squealers break off. the brakes will gradually get
    louder and louder.
     
    SoCalMike, Mar 15, 2006
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