What is "Drive by Wire" technology

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Firebird, Jul 29, 2007.

  1. Firebird

    Firebird Guest

    I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end of
    season 2007-SE.
    I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And is
    it good?
    Do the 2007's 2.4 4 cylinder engines perform better then the 02.

    How are the 07's. still well made????

    Thanks
     
    Firebird, Jul 29, 2007
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  2. Firebird

    Art Guest

    Instead of the gas pedal directly increasing and decreasing the flow of
    gasoline, it is connected to the computer which then decreases in increases
    the flow of gasoline. Advantage can be better performance and emissions.
    Some people claim their engine hesistates though as the computer decideds
    whether or not you are serious when you pound on the gas pedal.
     
    Art, Jul 29, 2007
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  3. Firebird

    Slacker Guest

    Controlling things electrically rather than by tugging on a steel cable;
    e.g. when you depress your gas pedal, it sends an electronic signal to the
    fuel injectors to increase the fuel flow rather. In the old days, the gas
    pedal was connected to the carburetor by that steel cable that always
    stretched when you stomped on it repeatedly to go faster.
     
    Slacker, Jul 29, 2007
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  4. Firebird

    jim beam Guest

    art & slacker

    in a fuel injected car, gas flow is /already/ controlled by the computer
    - amount injected does not necessarily depend on throttle position.

    a better definition is that the /throttle/ is controlled by electronic
    signal rather than pedal linkage. that way, the computer decides air
    flow as well as gas injection.

    advantages include better economy and better shifting for automatics, as
    well as easier implementation of cruise control. doesn't make a whole
    heap of difference to the driver experience unless you have a sports car
    with paddle shifters.
     
    jim beam, Jul 29, 2007
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  5. The gas pedal is connected not to the engine, but to a computer. Your
    foot is telling the computer what you want; the computer is telling the
    engine what to do so that you get what you want.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jul 30, 2007
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  6. I've found this hesitation to be there on my 2007 Civic LX, FYI.
    Annoying, but I suppose I can live with it.

    brian
     
    Brian Beuchaw, Jul 30, 2007
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  7. Firebird

    Andy Guest

    No timing belt, I think it has a chain...don't have to worry about the
    belt snapping, but I suppose the chain can go too!>
     
    Andy, Jul 30, 2007
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  8. Firebird

    JXStern Guest

    Have not had or heard of any problems with the 07s, been driving the
    EX4 since November, after driving a 2004 EX4 for three years. The
    engine and suspension are both tuned a little differently, I seem to
    be getting about 2mpg less on the 2007, but it has somewhat better
    low-end response.

    Great cars, they go right where you point them, no problems. :)

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jul 31, 2007
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  9. Firebird

    Oldtech Guest

    BUT, it runs Microsoft Windows CE, which is known among programmers to
    have ~15 bugs per hundred lines of code.

    Imagine trying to merge on the high speed interstate road, and the
    computer gets a blue screen and needs to be reset!

    Remember the Shanandoah, the US stealth ship, an, Arleigh Burke class
    destroyer that was
    stranded out to sea for three days waiting to be towed to port, because
    of a software bug in the kernel that shut down the engines, even though
    Microsoft programmers and engineers were aboard on trials, they
    couldn't fix it!

    Similar problems with British Class 45 ships...

    Guys, switch to Linux! NASA proved it, when they switched! All robotic
    missions run Linux! System updates can be done remotely, and have, for
    all the Mars Rovers!
     
    Oldtech, Jul 31, 2007
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  10. BUT, it runs Microsoft Windows CE, which is known among programmers to
    have ~15 bugs per hundred lines of code.[/QUOTE]

    No it doesn't.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jul 31, 2007
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  11. Can't speak as to whether it has a chain or belt, but generally
    chains last *lots* (tens of thousands of miles) longer than belts.

    brian
     
    Brian Beuchaw, Jul 31, 2007
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  12. Firebird

    jim beam Guest

    No it doesn't.
    [/QUOTE]

    a lot of interior electronics modules do, but the engine management
    systems definitely don't.
     
    jim beam, Aug 1, 2007
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  13. Firebird

    jim beam Guest

    and it's pointless. chains stretch. when that happens, timing goes
    out. and when timing's out, fuel efficiency goes down. so the vehicle
    costs more to run and is more polluting. much better to have belts and
    just stick to a maintenance schedule. with over 100k miles between
    changes, it's not like this is a major scheduling problem. if a belt
    change costs $500, that's 0.5 cents per mile. pretty small beer in
    comparison to other running costs. pretty small beer in comparison to
    bad timing costs as well.
     
    jim beam, Aug 1, 2007
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  14. Firebird

    Phil Guest

    Chains stretch when bathed? I thought oil film prevents any kind of
    metal-to-metal contact.
     
    Phil, Aug 3, 2007
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  15. Firebird

    jim beam Guest

    only way to achieve separation is to exceed a certain velocity or to use
    forced lube. it's called hydrodynamic lubrication. the sliding parts
    of chains are neither forced nor move fast enough. rate of stretch is
    not high, but on a long chain run, like you get with overhead cams, you
    can get quite a lot of timing drift.
     
    jim beam, Aug 3, 2007
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