What year Odyssey's had Bad Trannies

Discussion in 'Odyssey' started by WaterWatcher, Feb 20, 2005.

  1. WaterWatcher

    WaterWatcher Guest

    I'm considering a 2000 Odyssey with 90,000 miles. What year were they
    afflicted with bad trannies? Consumers sez the '99 had a weak trans, but
    the 2000 looks OK. Anyone know for sure? Also, any other issues to be
    aware of with the Odyssey?

    Thanks,
    WW
     
    WaterWatcher, Feb 20, 2005
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  2. WaterWatcher

    Dana Guest

    It's the luck of the draw , but if you think you're going to buy a vehicle
    with 90000 miles on it and live happily ever after chances are you're
    dreaming.
     
    Dana, Feb 20, 2005
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  3. WaterWatcher

    Qwack Guest

    For all the information you would ever want on he Odyssey and transmissions
    go to www.odyclub.com forum.
     
    Qwack, Feb 20, 2005
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  4. WaterWatcher

    Howard Guest

    If it's an Odyssey with a V-6 motor, unfortunately it has or will have a
    tranny problem. New or used! Honda has extended the warranty on 99-01
    Odyssey's to 7 years or 100,000 miles whichever occurs first. They need to
    do that on all years from 1999 to current year. Yeah, even 2005's may need
    it. Just watch and wait.
    Howard
     
    Howard, Feb 20, 2005
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  5. Not a late model 04, and not the 05. By mid-04, they had fixed the
    problem.

    But it's freakish how the Odyssey got caught up with the same bad
    transmission starting in 99 as Honda put in the Accord starting in 99,
    and how--when they went to the all-new 5 speed unit with the 02
    Odyssey--there was yet another problem in THAT transmission.

    They need to stop hiring ex-Chrysler and -Ford guys to do their
    transmissions. We all expected better than that from Honda.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Feb 20, 2005
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  6. WaterWatcher

    Howard Guest

    I repeat!
    "even 2005's may need it. Just watch and wait."
    Betcha a nickel.
    Howard
     
    Howard, Feb 20, 2005
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  7. hmmmmm, I'm awfully tempted to take that bet.

    But maybe that's just my optimism that Honda has fired everyone involved
    in previous transmissions, and is past all this.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Feb 20, 2005
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  8. WaterWatcher

    chip Guest


    i will take that bet!!! I put a tranny in an 05 touring model last
    week for differential bearing noise...
    i also did 1 02 oddy and 1 99 oddy tranny last week.
    Chip
     
    chip, Feb 21, 2005
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  9. WaterWatcher

    Chris Guest

    A friend of mine here in Canada has a 2001 LX Odyssey, and his dealership
    replaced his tyranny, even though it was 2000 miles over the wty.
    I have a 2000 Ody with 30000 miles, and I'm considering taking mine in too!
    -chris
     
    Chris, Feb 21, 2005
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  10. WaterWatcher

    Howard Guest

    Darn,
    Could've been 5 cents richer, but then I knew I could win.
    Howard
     
    Howard, Feb 21, 2005
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  11. WaterWatcher

    Robert Guest

    What exactly is the problem with these trannys - no one is perfect but
    is it a case of cost cutting or just a design fluke? Looking at Big3
    models it's strange how cars such as Crown Vics which haven't changed
    for years suddenly develop new problems - I can only assume they're
    putting more and more of a squeeze on suppliers who are forced to make
    parts cheaper and weaker until you get a major problem. I just hope
    Honda is not looking at Ford and GM as the way to build cars.

    Bob
     
    Robert, Feb 21, 2005
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  12. WaterWatcher

    bill Guest

    Honda might want to look at GM for AC and Trannies - two things GM generally
    does well.
    GM engines on the other hand... oh well.
     
    bill, Feb 22, 2005
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  13. WaterWatcher

    Net-Doctor Guest

    Kinda sobering to hear someone say that.....

    Rumor is that the engineer that was responsible for the hot gear issue
    voluntarily retired.....

    He now resides in a pine box somewhere underground.

    Apparently it bothered him too...

    -Snip-
     
    Net-Doctor, Feb 23, 2005
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  14. WaterWatcher

    Net-Doctor Guest

    It was not nearly as big a percentage of missions that we originally
    feared. The L4 Accord is performing very well, the Ody failures were only a
    small percentage of total vehicles sold, the '05 Ody had only a minor issue
    with low gear, the V6 Accord hot gear issue has been a minute percentage.
    Honda has voluntarily extended the drivetrain warranty to protect customer
    investment in our product. (These were design issues, not assembly issues.)
    To date, most of those transmissions that were goodwilled out by Honda were
    done so with remarkable efficiency.

    To date, we have built over 5.4 million automatic transmissions here in
    Ohio.

    That's five point four million, since 1997.

    L4 Accord, V6 Accord, V6 Ody,4WD Pilot, L4 Civic, Acura V6 CL,V6 TL, 4WD
    MDX, Ridgeline, Element.

    When we see that customers-valued customers- have had issues that they
    didn't feel got resolved in a fair and timely manner it only makes us work
    harder to prevent something like that from ever occurring again.

    I can't speak for everyone at Honda, but I grew up there. I've never
    even been in a GM or Ford plant.
     
    Net-Doctor, Feb 23, 2005
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    humblejohn Guest

    gm chrysler and ford don't build cars. they build junk.
     
    humblejohn, Feb 25, 2005
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    heavyman Guest

    I have had (4) "goodwill" transmission replacements in our 2000
    Odyssey, first at about 80,000, one at 85,000, one at 87,000, and last
    week one at 110,000. Thanks to Honda for replacing post-warranty. No
    thanks to Honda for designing a system that clearly does not fulfill
    Honda's historically legendary quality, and has left us in a vehicle
    that is not worth even half of what we owe. Asked dealership to buy it
    back for what we owe so we could afford a new one, they refused. My
    family collectively has owned 11 different new Hondas since 1984, and
    until this one all have been as-billed. I can't afford the risk of
    keeping the vehicle, nearly a $4,000 repair if they won't warranty the
    next failure.

    My wife and I would have appreciated Honda saving us from this car, as
    I cannot in good faith sell this to an unsuspecting family knowing what
    I know. Honda is losing me on this one.....all companies/products have
    problems, the difference is in how they are handled.

    Jon
     
    heavyman, Feb 25, 2005
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  17. WaterWatcher

    TPhil Guest

    Very interesting as I myself have been a true Honda patron since 1987 & am
    now moving over to the other side with Toyota as the quality at Honda is
    just toooo much engineered less than it used to be & the gap between them &
    other high end quality autos is visibly lessening.

    It may be best to sell your Ody to a buyer clearly knowing of the potential
    issue & also signing the sales sheet "as is".

    T
     
    TPhil, Feb 26, 2005
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  18. WaterWatcher

    Net-Doctor Guest

    Fellas:

    You wouldn't be smart consumers if you didn't consider another
    nameplate; I'm not trying to blow sunshine where it don't belong. It would
    disappoint me to lose either of you, but you are not alone in your concerns.
    Four transmission replacements in one vehicle is more than just a
    concern; it's tragic. It bothers me that we didn't get to the solutions
    before we did. All the while we were working on solutions, our customers
    were dealing with problems the real world. It's financially tragic as well,
    considering that each one of those goodwill replacements costs us (Honda)
    over three thousand dollars apiece. Quite frankly, after the first one, all
    the profit from the original sale was probably lost, so imagine what the
    fourth replacement did for us. Try to quantify that in terms of how badly
    Honda worked to save it's customers.
    I deal first hand with failed transmissions, and I can tell you that
    the problem is solved; it is my hope that we don't lose loyal buyers. It is
    my belief that these design issues were growing pains, experienced as Honda
    moved into new technology with 5-speed automatics. I'm telling you we have
    matured in this area.

    -Snip-
     
    Net-Doctor, Feb 26, 2005
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  19. WaterWatcher

    Net-Doctor Guest

    -Snip-

    Should have read "in terms of how HARD Honda worked.."

    poor choice of words on my part...
     
    Net-Doctor, Feb 27, 2005
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  20. WaterWatcher

    JXStern Guest

    Presume any Honda from about 1998 onwards with an automatic, is likely
    to have tranny problems. Some you just live with, it's only the ones
    that leave you stranded that Honda has so far addressed publicly.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Feb 27, 2005
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