What's your opinion on the MiniVan Market today!

A guy I was talking to that used to live in Florida told me Nissans
(the last car he bought) were a couple thousand less in Florida than
in Raleigh and he was going back to buy one.

 

I'll bite:


I own a 2002 Sedona EX. Nice van, if a little small. (Hence, the term
"minivan", right?) You can see my road trip review in another post in the
alt.autos.kia newsgroup. Most of my only other experience with vans are
older. My mother had a POS '89 Voyager, which was underpowered and lasted
only about 80K miles before she gave it up. My father in law just turned in
his '88 Aerostar with over 250K miles last month for a Jeep Liberty. He had
nothing but praise for it. I know two different familys with Toyota Previas,
each with well over 100K miles. They're very happy. I only know of one
family with an Odessy - I think an '95 or '96. I wouldn't call it a minivan,
rather a tall station wagon, since it has four doors (not sliding) and a
hatchback. Another friend has a '03 Quest, which she bought used, with 6000
miles on it. She got below blue book from the dealer, as they were making
room for the 2004 models.

From what I've read, stay away from the new Ford model minivan. They are
known to be underpowered.

HTH

 

I'll bite:


I own a 2002 Sedona EX. Nice van, if a little small. (Hence, the term
"minivan", right?) You can see my road trip review in another post in the
alt.autos.kia newsgroup. Most of my only other experience with vans are
older. My mother had a POS '89 Voyager, which was underpowered and lasted
only about 80K miles before she gave it up. My father in law just turned in
his '88 Aerostar with over 250K miles last month for a Jeep Liberty. He had
nothing but praise for it. I know two different familys with Toyota Previas,
each with well over 100K miles. They're very happy. I only know of one
family with an Odessy - I think an '95 or '96. I wouldn't call it a minivan,
rather a tall station wagon, since it has four doors (not sliding) and a
hatchback. Another friend has a '03 Quest, which she bought used, with 6000
miles on it. She got below blue book from the dealer, as they were making
room for the 2004 models.

From what I've read, stay away from the new Ford model minivan. They are
known to be underpowered.

HTH

 

I just traded in a 1999 Windstar on my 2003 Sedona EX, and power was never a
problem for the Windstar - the engine was strong. Reliability was the
problem. The tranny was acting up, the ABS sensors had to be replaced, the
paint on the roof was peeling off in big flakes, there was some electric
clicking that never did get figured out, the intake manifold was defective
(as is every 1999 Windstar's), and I still had to pay for the repair, carbon
build up was terrible, etc..etc... PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM THE WINDSTAR!

Jamie

 

I just traded in a 1999 Windstar on my 2003 Sedona EX, and power was never a
problem for the Windstar - the engine was strong. Reliability was the
problem. The tranny was acting up, the ABS sensors had to be replaced, the
paint on the roof was peeling off in big flakes, there was some electric
clicking that never did get figured out, the intake manifold was defective
(as is every 1999 Windstar's), and I still had to pay for the repair, carbon
build up was terrible, etc..etc... PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM THE WINDSTAR!

Jamie

 

More Ford bashing in a Toyota NG again I see. One could say
things like that in any NG about any other brand as well.
Posters do it every day in various NG's


mike hunt



I just traded in a 1999 (insert name) on my 2003 (insert name),
and power was never a problem for the (insert name) - the engine
was strong. Reliability was the problem. The tranny was acting
up, the ABS sensors had to be replaced, the paint on the roof was
peeling off in big flakes, there was some electric clicking that
never did get figured out, the intake manifold was defective as
is every 1999 (insert name,) and I still had to pay for the
repair, carbon build up was terrible, etc..etc... PLEASE STAY
AWAY FROM (insert name)!

 

More Ford bashing in a Toyota NG again I see. One could say
things like that in any NG about any other brand as well.
Posters do it every day in various NG's


mike hunt



I just traded in a 1999 (insert name) on my 2003 (insert name),
and power was never a problem for the (insert name) - the engine
was strong. Reliability was the problem. The tranny was acting
up, the ABS sensors had to be replaced, the paint on the roof was
peeling off in big flakes, there was some electric clicking that
never did get figured out, the intake manifold was defective as
is every 1999 (insert name,) and I still had to pay for the
repair, carbon build up was terrible, etc..etc... PLEASE STAY
AWAY FROM (insert name)!

 

All I'll say is go to you nearest transmission shop and ask the owner how
many kids he's put through college due to the Ford AXOD transmissions. Go to
google and run a search on "Ford Windstar AXOD" and click on a few links.
Ford's been selling known defective vehicles for years.

Jamie

 

All I'll say is go to you nearest transmission shop and ask the owner how
many kids he's put through college due to the Ford AXOD transmissions. Go to
google and run a search on "Ford Windstar AXOD" and click on a few links.
Ford's been selling known defective vehicles for years.

Jamie

 

And just as surely Jamie you must have brown eyes. Anyone that full of it
must have brown eyes.

Dave D

 

And just as surely Jamie you must have brown eyes. Anyone that full of it
must have brown eyes.

Dave D

 

http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=100&did=564

Read and weep. The AXOD transmission design is inherently flawed, and Ford
knows it.

Jamie

 

http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=100&did=564

Read and weep. The AXOD transmission design is inherently flawed, and Ford
knows it.

Jamie

 

I don't see that post as "Ford Bashing" in any way. I think it is well known
that the tranny in the Windstar/Taurus had issues for several years. I
believe they were redesigned in 2001 (AX4 ?), and were much better. I think
you can say that a car by company x (particularly one as large as Ford or
GM) is bad without "bashing" the whole company. Okay, so the AXO
transmission was bad. That doesn't mean that the Toploader, AOD or C4/C6
trannies were bad, right? I often posted about how defective my GMC's fuel
injector was. Doesn't mean that all GM trucks were bad. Just the CPI unit on
the 94-96 Vortec 4300 engine. (An engine that - despite the FI unit is
still running at over 200K.)

 

I don't see that post as "Ford Bashing" in any way. I think it is well known
that the tranny in the Windstar/Taurus had issues for several years. I
believe they were redesigned in 2001 (AX4 ?), and were much better. I think
you can say that a car by company x (particularly one as large as Ford or
GM) is bad without "bashing" the whole company. Okay, so the AXO
transmission was bad. That doesn't mean that the Toploader, AOD or C4/C6
trannies were bad, right? I often posted about how defective my GMC's fuel
injector was. Doesn't mean that all GM trucks were bad. Just the CPI unit on
the 94-96 Vortec 4300 engine. (An engine that - despite the FI unit is
still running at over 200K.)

 

Chrysler has trouble too, especially with its A604E transaxle.

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Inasmuch as the Democrats are complaining on how long the war is taking,
consider this:

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the
Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

It took less time to find Saddam's sons in Iraq than it took Hillary
Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to
destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call
the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in
Florida! TWICE!!!!!

Damn our military is GREAT!!

 

Chrysler has trouble too, especially with its A604E transaxle.

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Inasmuch as the Democrats are complaining on how long the war is taking,
consider this:

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the
Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

It took less time to find Saddam's sons in Iraq than it took Hillary
Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to
destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call
the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in
Florida! TWICE!!!!!

Damn our military is GREAT!!

 

Mike would say its OK, because its not Ford. He is a Ford lackey. But he
has done more harm than good in the Toyota group for Ford. Fords werent
even spoke of here, then he showed up and now we know all about them.

--





Inasmuch as the Democrats are complaining on how long the war is taking,
consider this:

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the
Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

It took less time to find Saddam's sons in Iraq than it took Hillary
Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to
destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call
the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in
Florida! TWICE!!!!!

Damn our military is GREAT!!

 

Mike would say its OK, because its not Ford. He is a Ford lackey. But he
has done more harm than good in the Toyota group for Ford. Fords werent
even spoke of here, then he showed up and now we know all about them.

--





Inasmuch as the Democrats are complaining on how long the war is taking,
consider this:

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the
Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

It took less time to find Saddam's sons in Iraq than it took Hillary
Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to
destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call
the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in
Florida! TWICE!!!!!

Damn our military is GREAT!!

 

In

Were it not for MikeHunt's provocation, I would not have coalesced
the truth about Ford ownership:

"The ONLY good Ford is a Ford still on Warranty or an old Ford
restored"