When is it worth purchasing an extended warranty on a used vehicle?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by techman41973, Mar 19, 2008.

  1. techman41973

    techman41973 Guest

    Is it ever worth purchasing an extended warranty on a used vehicle
    that is relatively reliable (toyota, honda, etc.)?
     
    techman41973, Mar 19, 2008
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    Piso Mojado Guest

    No.
     
    Piso Mojado, Mar 19, 2008
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    tommy Guest

    Maybe IF you have the option in the 3rd year - by then you'll know IF you
    need it - otherwise I agree
     
    tommy, Mar 19, 2008
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    mrsteveo Guest

    I bought my 'Toyota Certified Used Vehicle' from Lithia Toyota in
    Medford, Oregon. I also (first car buying experience, give me a
    break..) was conned, er, talked into buying the 'extended warranty'
    offered by Lithia.

    Like a moron -- I bought it.

    Since I drove a lot -- and it was a miles/years thing -- I went past
    the piles in a pretty short amount of time. That was $2k down the
    drain pretty fast.

    The few issues I did have with the car, I caused myself by using way
    to much injector cleaning thinking I was doing a good thing when I
    wasn't. Also, since Lithia seems to employ morons in the service
    department, it took them '10 hours' to diagnose and thankfully, that
    10 hours x 95.00/hr was covered under the warranty and the replacement
    of the cracked/dirty injector was as well. They told me that I should
    feel thankful I had the warranty because had I not, I guess they
    really thought I would have paid $1000 just to DIAGNOSE a bad
    injector. Ray O can chime in but that just seems absurd....

    In an ideal world, a dealer wouldn't possibly think $1000 to diagnose
    a vehicle is sane -- but Lithia can and does.

    Anyway, I wouldn't recommend it. I wish I hadn't purchased it on
    mine.

    (2002 Toyota Corolla, CE purchased with 62,000 miles -- 144k strong
    today!)
     
    mrsteveo, Mar 19, 2008
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  5. techman41973

    trailer Guest

    If the vehicle has a lot of bells and whistles it might be worth
    considering an extended warranty.

    My last car was a Ford and the warranty just about paid for itself in
    repairs.

    I just purchased a Honda with Navigation and a few other options. I did get
    the extended warranty, but I debate every day if it was worth the extra cost
    because of Honda reliability.

    However, the 99 Accord I had purchased used had the ECM fail and the
    warranty paid for it.

    Consumer Reports usually votes against them.
    Is it ever worth purchasing an extended warranty on a used vehicle
    that is relatively reliable (toyota, honda, etc.)?
     
    trailer, Mar 19, 2008
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  6. techman41973

    motsco_ Guest

    trailer wrote:
    ======================

    WOW, you should have run out and bought a lottery ticket. A failed HONDA
    ECM is about the rarest event on the planet. About the only way to wreck
    one is from arc welding on the chassis or the windshield leaking water
    through it for a while / total immersion.

    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq_ii.html#changeecu

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Mar 19, 2008
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    ronbon Guest

    The last warranty I bought was a Nissan Stanza. Waste of money, never
    used it.

    Ron
     
    ronbon, Mar 19, 2008
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    mrsteveo Guest

    Lithia told me the ECU was thousands if it went bad. That convinced
    me it might be worth it.

    I've found ones for my 1ZZFE automatic for $50 on eBay that claim
    they've been tested and work fine.
     
    mrsteveo, Mar 19, 2008
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    MLD Guest

    The last warranty I bought was a Nissan Stanza. Waste of money, never
    used it.

    Ron

    Have you used any of your life insurance policies yet??--waste of $$$ I
    guess.
     
    MLD, Mar 19, 2008
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  10. If you're buying a car and getting a Ceritfied Pre-Owned Toyota (has to be
    CERTIFIED) the warranty is free...
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Mar 19, 2008
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  11. techman41973

    trailer Guest

    Keep in mind that if you don't use the warranty, it might be refundable.
    Never used this though.
    Is it ever worth purchasing an extended warranty on a used vehicle
    that is relatively reliable (toyota, honda, etc.)?
     
    trailer, Mar 19, 2008
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    Piso Mojado Guest

    I actually did that about 15 years ago at a Honda dealer in Atlanta. I ended
    up selling the car after about 2-3 years (it was too small for a growing
    family) and the dealer gave me a full refund.

    I have purchased several cars from them since-- and sent friends and
    neighbors. Best $700 they ever spent!
     
    Piso Mojado, Mar 19, 2008
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    Tomes Guest

    The way I see it, buying an extended warranty is betting that you made a
    poor decision on the reliability of the vehicle.
    Tomes <-- who does not buy these things and has come out ahead as a result
     
    Tomes, Mar 19, 2008
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    dold Guest

    I bought a Honda extended warranty because it was refundable.
    The catch is that it is refunded after the expiration in years, not miles,
    and only to the original owner, so they probably don't pay out very often.

    I figured the real cost of the warranty was the interest on $1320 for 7
    years.

    Then I had a $200 repair that would be covered under the warranty. darn.
    I paid for that, to keep the refund alive.
     
    dold, Mar 19, 2008
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    Ray O Guest

    It is rarely worth purchasing an extended warranty on a used vehicle. Put
    the cost of the extended warranty into a separate bank account and draw from
    it for repairs to the car if necessary.
     
    Ray O, Mar 20, 2008
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  16. techman41973

    Ray O Guest

    I bought my 'Toyota Certified Used Vehicle' from Lithia Toyota in
    Medford, Oregon. I also (first car buying experience, give me a
    break..) was conned, er, talked into buying the 'extended warranty'
    offered by Lithia.

    Like a moron -- I bought it.

    Since I drove a lot -- and it was a miles/years thing -- I went past
    the piles in a pretty short amount of time. That was $2k down the
    drain pretty fast.

    The few issues I did have with the car, I caused myself by using way
    to much injector cleaning thinking I was doing a good thing when I
    wasn't. Also, since Lithia seems to employ morons in the service
    department, it took them '10 hours' to diagnose and thankfully, that
    10 hours x 95.00/hr was covered under the warranty and the replacement
    of the cracked/dirty injector was as well. They told me that I should
    feel thankful I had the warranty because had I not, I guess they
    really thought I would have paid $1000 just to DIAGNOSE a bad
    injector. Ray O can chime in but that just seems absurd....

    In an ideal world, a dealer wouldn't possibly think $1000 to diagnose
    a vehicle is sane -- but Lithia can and does.

    Anyway, I wouldn't recommend it. I wish I hadn't purchased it on
    mine.

    (2002 Toyota Corolla, CE purchased with 62,000 miles -- 144k strong
    today!)

    **************
    The problems you encountered is one of the reasons I tell people to lay off
    the injector cleaner there is a drivability problem that might be caused by
    dirty injectors.

    What kind of symptoms did you experience?

    And yes, 10 hours diagnosis time seems ridiculous. Since flat rate time
    includes diagnosis and testing, they should have only charged you for the
    flat rate time to diagnose and change the injectors.

    Flat rate time is a double-edged sword. A shop may come out ahead with the
    majority of the vehicles they work on, but they should eat the extra labor
    in those few cases where they can't beat the flat rate time. If they want
    to charge extra when they can't beat flat rate, then a fair shop should give
    a credit or discount if they do beat flat rate time.
     
    Ray O, Mar 20, 2008
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  17. techman41973

    Ray O Guest

    <snipped>

    Lithia told me the ECU was thousands if it went bad. That convinced
    me it might be worth it.

    I've found ones for my 1ZZFE automatic for $50 on eBay that claim
    they've been tested and work fine.

    *******
    New ECU's do cost thousands if they go bad, but they rarely go bad. I think
    the failure rate is something like 1 or 2 per million vehicles. The
    replacement rate on ECU's is much higher because the technicians can't find
    something else wrong.
     
    Ray O, Mar 20, 2008
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    AZ Nomad Guest

    I once had an ignition problem that I thought was due to a bad output
    transister on an acura integra ECU. I had tested the coil and replaced the
    ignitor. I pulled ECU and removed its cover and sat in awe at
    the quality of it's construction. I decided to look elsewhere and the problem
    turned out to be the coil that ohmed out as perfect. An O'Scope on the signal
    from ECU to Ignitor showed a good signal.
     
    AZ Nomad, Mar 20, 2008
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    Jeff Guest

    Probably not worth the cost. The vast majority of these insurance
    policies (they're really not warranties, but insurance policies)
    Possibly. However, if the repairs that were covered by a TSB, the
    repairs might have been done free or at a reduced cost. Plus, you might
    have had the repairs done more cheaply by a private garage.
    That because the people who sell the insurance pay out so little on
    them. The vast majority of the money that you pay is for profit for the
    dealer and profit for the insurance company that sells the warranty.
    Plus, if your car gets wrecked, the insurance is lost.

    These insurance plans are usually a waste of money.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Mar 20, 2008
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    Art Guest

    I purchased a Honda 8 year 120k extended warranty with zero deductible for
    my 2006 Odyssey. It cost about a grand. For one thing the van has a ton of
    bells and whistles. For the other, it is likely that I will sell it in year
    7 and being able to sell it with a 1 year warranty should make it very easy
    to sell privately.
     
    Art, Mar 22, 2008
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