When should I change the battery?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jason Hsu, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. Jason Hsu

    Jason Hsu Guest

    I have a 2004 Honda Accord with just over 26 thousand miles and the
    original battery.

    Is it time for me to replace the battery yet? On the one hand, I do
    NOT believe in waiting for the battery to go bad. Some people say
    that can tell by the fact that they need to crank a bit longer to
    start the car, but I'm not sure I'd notice. Even if I knew I would
    notice and avoided getting stranded, I'd rather get it done at my
    leisure rather than have to drop everything I'm doing to take care of
    it.

    On the other hand, the fact that a Honda battery (assuming it isn't
    the original one, which is warrantied for only 3 years, with the last
    year prorated) is warrantied for 100 months (first 3 years fully
    warrantied, remaining term prorated) makes me think I could wait at
    least another year. The general rule I've heard is to replace a
    battery a year before the warranty expires.

    I live in Iowa, so I'm not subject to the battery-killing heat of
    Phoenix, Las Vegas, or Tucson. Of course, I've heard that very cold
    temperatures (like last winter) are also bad for car batteries.
     
    Jason Hsu, Jun 18, 2008
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  2. Jason Hsu

    Elle Guest

    I agree. My reading indicates an older battery puts strain
    on the alternator.
    I too say I can tell this with my 91 Civic (original owner).
    In fact, in 2000 before I knew too much about the
    alternator, charging, and battery systems, I noted that the
    car had been starting with difficulty for several days prior
    to it dying so much that it would not start the car.

    My 91 Civic is on its fourth battery, though I will likely
    replace it pre-emptively sometime late this year.

    Do the five checks listed at
    http://honda.lioness.googlepages.com/battery%26alternatortips
    to get a handle on how your system is doing. If the battery
    voltage is over 12.5 volts with the engine off and no
    electrical loads (like lights), it's probably fine. If it
    has been jumped a few times, consider replacing it
    pre-emptively.
    The heat's by far the worst.
     
    Elle, Jun 18, 2008
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  3. Sam's Club, $50, done....
     
    J.H. Holliday, Jun 18, 2008
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  4. Why not?

    It's really very simple.

    However, you may take your car to any garage and have the battery and
    charging system checked at any time. Just do it if you're that freaking
    paranoid.

    Sheesh. You don't have time in your life to deal with a dead battery
    every 5-6 years?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 19, 2008
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  5. Jason Hsu

    ACAR Guest

    snip

    Do it now.
    You obviously don't want to be inconvenienced by a dead battery. A
    replacement will set you back $50 to $75. A small price to pay for
    peace of mind.
     
    ACAR, Jun 19, 2008
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  6. Jason Hsu

    jim beam Guest

    jeepers - where do you people come from? why would TESTING the freakin'
    battery be such a problem? people bleat and complain about gas prices,
    yet they're prepared to blindly throw away money because they read of a
    guy who read of a guy that had to call aaa? it's freakin' impossible to
    convince people to change their timing belt, but prematurely change
    their battery? "stand in line folks - we'll be taking your money as
    soon as we can!"
     
    jim beam, Jun 19, 2008
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  7. Jason Hsu

    ACAR Guest

    the only one having a problem here is you.
    as usual.
     
    ACAR, Jun 19, 2008
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  8. Jason Hsu

    jim beam Guest


    hmmm, so lack of common sense and lack of logic beats saving money and
    saving resources. i think i've got it now. thanks for the heads up.
     
    jim beam, Jun 20, 2008
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  9. Jason Hsu

    ACAR Guest

    you seem very happy in your jim beam world.
    how nice for you.

    if the OP has the $$ to throw at a new battery so he's not bothered
    with testing, what's it to you? most drivers just want a reliable
    appliance, not an avocation.

    and simple battery tests failed to predict my last two battery
    failures. so there.
     
    ACAR, Jun 20, 2008
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  10. Jason Hsu

    ACAR Guest

    you seem very happy in your jim beam world.
    how nice for you.

    if the OP has the $$ to throw at a new battery so he's not bothered
    with testing, what's it to you? most drivers just want a reliable
    appliance, not an avocation.

    and simple battery tests failed to predict my last two battery
    failures. so there.
     
    ACAR, Jun 20, 2008
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  11. Jason Hsu

    jim beam Guest

    i advocate reliability! that's why i advocate testing!

    "simple"? volt meters are not battery testers. proper battery testers
    will load the battery at, say, 100A, and monitor not only voltage under
    that load, but how the voltage holds during the duration of the test,
    which should be several seconds.

    afterall, it's not like you can't get new batteries that are dud or
    damaged in transit.
     
    jim beam, Jun 20, 2008
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  12. Jason Hsu

    ACAR Guest

    right, so by the time the OP spends the time and money to properly
    test his 4-year old battery, he'll have invested enough to have bought
    a new one.
     
    ACAR, Jun 20, 2008
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  13. Jason Hsu

    Elle Guest

    Plus, with an older battery, he risks accelerating the aging
    of the alternator, translating to bucks as well.
     
    Elle, Jun 20, 2008
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  14. Jason Hsu

    jim beam Guest

    most places, if you take it to the place where you get your car serviced
    regularly, they'll test it, wait for it, for *free*!!! whoopee!
     
    jim beam, Jun 21, 2008
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  15. Jason Hsu

    jim beam Guest

    yet another reason to test!
     
    jim beam, Jun 21, 2008
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  16. Jason Hsu

    ACAR Guest

    for most of us, time is money and shop hours are our normal working
    hours.
    and some of us don't have access to free services.
    but thanks for your concern about saving $15 bucks (an additional year
    from the battery)
     
    ACAR, Jun 22, 2008
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  17. Jason Hsu

    jim beam Guest

    if you pay someone else to service your car, as most people do, none of
    the above are a concern because the shop will usually do a test for free
    when they do your other routine work. otherwise, you might pay, yes.
    but again, a lot of places will do it free in the hope that if you're
    asking, it's already giving trouble, and they'll get to sell you a new
    battery. if that's not the case, you get a free test, and they lose out
    on a sale. oh well.
     
    jim beam, Jun 22, 2008
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  18. Ummmm....why not?

    Did you read what he said?

    If you go to where you normally go for service, they'll test it for free.

    Last week, I took my car in to my normal place (local garage) at 2pm and
    asked if they had time for an oil change.

    Voila. 10 minutes later, I was out of there, job done while I sat and
    chatted with the guy.

    If you go to where you normally go for service, they'll take care of you.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 23, 2008
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  19. Jason Hsu

    ACAR Guest

    If the OP had access to a shop do you think he'd be asking in a
    newsgroup for service advice?
     
    ACAR, Jun 23, 2008
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  20. Yes.

    Just like those who have bought brand-new shiny $25,000 cars and have
    access to the owner's manual still come to random strangers in a
    newsgroup to ask questions that the manual answers.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 23, 2008
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