[QUOTE] My nightmare of a car had nothing to do with the timing belt. Did I mention timing belt anywhere? You think with k dumped into the car I would've tried to save pennies on the timing belt?[/QUOTE] Well, most people who kill their Hondas do so by not changing the timing belt when called for. I figured you probably ignored the belt and ruined the engine. But I now see you came up with a more ingenious way to kill what should have been a bullet-proof car...