Which To Buy?

My experience might be BS but I can assure you that the money flushed
the drain on my old Subaru were very real. No old used cars for me jap
or otherwise thank you very much. The reliability is way overhyped.

You have a representative sample don't you?
And I have $10k flushed on a 7 y.o. Legacy that I paid $7k for.

Then when I was shopping for a car three years ago I stop
by a Honda dealer to see what they had.
Well, they had a 3-4 y.o. civic with 50-60k miles on it
and the dealer wanted $9600 or so for it. $10k for a stinky
piece of "certified" junk with a half the juice taken out of it? It
was probably due for a timing belt and gawd knows what else.
I went straight to the Mazda dealer and bought a 1 y.o. Protege with
3k on odometer. Very clean and no stench. Granted, Civic has a better
shifting
tranny and a smooth motor to match but I feel that I got
a much better value (and unlike Corolla the car is a hoot to drive)
If I were to replace my car and I were in snowbelt I'd get a new Civic
Si. A used one?
Given the depreciation rates for Hondas: no bloody way!
I'm not a complete moron. Used Hondas (Toyolets and Subarus too)
are WAY overpriced.
So I stand by my recommendation to OP to look elsewhere for a used
car.

Just my $.02.

 

My experience might be BS but I can assure you that the money flushed
the drain on my old Subaru were very real. No old used cars for me jap
or otherwise thank you very much. The reliability is way overhyped.

You have a representative sample don't you?
And I have $10k flushed on a 7 y.o. Legacy that I paid $7k for.

Then when I was shopping for a car three years ago I stop
by a Honda dealer to see what they had.
Well, they had a 3-4 y.o. civic with 50-60k miles on it
and the dealer wanted $9600 or so for it. $10k for a stinky
piece of "certified" junk with a half the juice taken out of it? It
was probably due for a timing belt and gawd knows what else.
I went straight to the Mazda dealer and bought a 1 y.o. Protege with
3k on odometer. Very clean and no stench. Granted, Civic has a better
shifting
tranny and a smooth motor to match but I feel that I got
a much better value (and unlike Corolla the car is a hoot to drive)
If I were to replace my car and I were in snowbelt I'd get a new Civic
Si. A used one?
Given the depreciation rates for Hondas: no bloody way!
I'm not a complete moron. Used Hondas (Toyolets and Subarus too)
are WAY overpriced.
So I stand by my recommendation to OP to look elsewhere for a used
car.

Just my $.02.

 

Ahh, I see... So you are in a Honda newsgroup complaining about civics
because you feel you paid too much for your Subaru. Good logic...

 

Ahh, I see... So you are in a Honda newsgroup complaining about civics
because you feel you paid too much for your Subaru. Good logic...

 

Ahh, I see... So you are in a Honda newsgroup complaining about civics
because you feel you paid too much for your Subaru. Good logic...

 

You're badmouthing Honda based on your experience with Subaru. That
makes no sense what-so-ever.

 

You're badmouthing Honda based on your experience with Subaru. That
makes no sense what-so-ever.

 

You're badmouthing Honda based on your experience with Subaru. That
makes no sense what-so-ever.

 

Your bias is evident in your use of an ethnic slur in your reply, making
your opinion even more worthless than most.

 

Your bias is evident in your use of an ethnic slur in your reply, making
your opinion even more worthless than most.

 

Your bias is evident in your use of an ethnic slur in your reply, making
your opinion even more worthless than most.

 

I was explaining to the OP that there are better deals and that
for $5k he can get a car in better shape if he shops elsewhere.
I don't have a problem if he buys a new Civic but a used one
is not a good value that's all. I think I explained already
that CIvic Si is on the list of my protege replacements
along with RX-8 and EVO. (Mazdaspeed 3 won't cut it for me).
In case you wonder what I'm doing on this NG in the first place.

 

I was explaining to the OP that there are better deals and that
for $5k he can get a car in better shape if he shops elsewhere.
I don't have a problem if he buys a new Civic but a used one
is not a good value that's all. I think I explained already
that CIvic Si is on the list of my protege replacements
along with RX-8 and EVO. (Mazdaspeed 3 won't cut it for me).
In case you wonder what I'm doing on this NG in the first place.

 

I was explaining to the OP that there are better deals and that
for $5k he can get a car in better shape if he shops elsewhere.
I don't have a problem if he buys a new Civic but a used one
is not a good value that's all. I think I explained already
that CIvic Si is on the list of my protege replacements
along with RX-8 and EVO. (Mazdaspeed 3 won't cut it for me).
In case you wonder what I'm doing on this NG in the first place.

 

From the experiences I have had over the years with any of the BIG 3
companies products, there is no way that any of them come close to being
better than a Honda.

I have owned GM and Ford vehicles that have more rattles, squeaks and
shakes than a ten year old Honda.

 

From the experiences I have had over the years with any of the BIG 3
companies products, there is no way that any of them come close to being
better than a Honda.

I have owned GM and Ford vehicles that have more rattles, squeaks and
shakes than a ten year old Honda.

 

From the experiences I have had over the years with any of the BIG 3
companies products, there is no way that any of them come close to being
better than a Honda.

I have owned GM and Ford vehicles that have more rattles, squeaks and
shakes than a ten year old Honda.

 

08 Civics are very reliable LOL. Clearly we would want the opinion of
someone who asks about the reliability of a car that doesn't even exist
yet.

Ownership of one lemon Subaru isn't enough experience for you to
badmouth used Japanese imports. Anyone with any real, unbiased
experience could tell you that a used Civic is probably one of the best
deals around if you're looking for affordability and reliability and not
performance.

Wow you put 10K into a 7K car? And it's still not running? For 10K I
could have rebuilt it, turbocharged it, painted it...and had it running
perfectly, who the hell is your mechanic because I'll never go there.

 

Well, you're the poor sap who bought a used Subaru. Hondas and Toyotas
are much more reliable. Nissans are more like VWs - they'll last a long
time too, but demand careful maintenance.

 

Well, you're the poor sap who bought a used Subaru. Hondas and Toyotas
are much more reliable. Nissans are more like VWs - they'll last a long
time too, but demand careful maintenance.